RC10B4.1 FT/WC
03-21-2012 | 02:32 PM
I wish I knew why that was funny.
I guess RCTech is the only place where a line like "Losi silver step pins!!" can elicit raucous laughter. Well, at least, in a smiley icon.
Busting your chops. But really, I don't know enough about Losi tires to know what you mean...
<edit: I looked them up. Hey, they're not out yet!>
Their website makes silver or red compound both look good, but then again, it's their website where they are promoting both.
Anybody have a reason to choose silver over red or vice-versa?
I guess RCTech is the only place where a line like "Losi silver step pins!!" can elicit raucous laughter. Well, at least, in a smiley icon.
Busting your chops. But really, I don't know enough about Losi tires to know what you mean...<edit: I looked them up. Hey, they're not out yet!>
Their website makes silver or red compound both look good, but then again, it's their website where they are promoting both.
Anybody have a reason to choose silver over red or vice-versa?
Last edited by jf+; 03-21-2012 at 02:44 PM.
03-21-2012 | 02:41 PM
New tires, included cheap foams: $15.
New tires, premounted: $24
Opportunity cost of boiling off old tires/using acetone: much > than $9
New tires, not mounted: $15, + 1/2 of a new $12 pkg of JConcepts wheels (4) = $21 - but you have to glue them yourself which takes a half hour of your time in prep/curing/clean up/crusty fingers. Worth it to me to spend 3 bucks more and not have to bother. Plus if you want GOOD foams, add another $10.
I doubt many other tires are premounted. I can live with that for much better longevity. I can also live with included foams. I'm willing to compromise, just trying not to blow through a set of tires every week or so--which would be more often if I got to get out more often.
03-21-2012 | 02:44 PM
Philosophical conundrum:
Did I have good karma, because I bought a new part right before the old one broke?
Or did I have bad karma, because the old part broke right after buying the new one?
Actual question:
My local track's drivers pretty much swear by JConcepts Double Dees on the rear. Only problem is, because these only come in super soft green, they die ridiculously quickly. The track is gritty, sometimes dusty hard-pack dirt/clay. Usually it's dry, almost never "muddy". My LHS sells the premounted DDs for $24 a pair, which is a great price, but not if they only last a couple long practice days.
Can anybody suggest a viable alternative that comes in a harder compound? Obviously I'm going to lose grip here, but for the sake of my wallet, it's a trade-off I'm heavily contemplating. Help is much appreciated! Bonus points if the cost is comparable.
Did I have good karma, because I bought a new part right before the old one broke?
Or did I have bad karma, because the old part broke right after buying the new one?
Actual question:
My local track's drivers pretty much swear by JConcepts Double Dees on the rear. Only problem is, because these only come in super soft green, they die ridiculously quickly. The track is gritty, sometimes dusty hard-pack dirt/clay. Usually it's dry, almost never "muddy". My LHS sells the premounted DDs for $24 a pair, which is a great price, but not if they only last a couple long practice days.
Can anybody suggest a viable alternative that comes in a harder compound? Obviously I'm going to lose grip here, but for the sake of my wallet, it's a trade-off I'm heavily contemplating. Help is much appreciated! Bonus points if the cost is comparable.
03-21-2012 | 02:54 PM
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From: New Jersey
I read this somewhere a few pages back... Someone was saying that they were running orange losi front springs and white rear; and someone said to go silver front for more traction??? LOL why would you go stiffer spring for more traction?... I run full losi shocks/springs, and people look at my car like I'm crazy. I run orange/white because I wanted something similar to brown/green. On the spring comparison chart it goes like this:
Front: Brown 2.8, orange 2.9
Rear: green 1.9, white 1.8
What I've noticed is that my laps times are about .4 second faster and my car jumps a hell of a lot better. Btw, I use older losi springs that are colored. I did a side by side comparison with spring diameter of the big bores and the older painted springs and found that the internal diameter is only a .5-1mm difference. Yes, prob makes a difference; but I don't care. I have a box of old losi springs in every color. Not about to spend another $100 for new springs.
Point is... For whoever is getting eye rolls from people when you mix parts or use older parts, just keep doing what you're doing. The lap times don't lie.
Keep on racin!
Front: Brown 2.8, orange 2.9
Rear: green 1.9, white 1.8
What I've noticed is that my laps times are about .4 second faster and my car jumps a hell of a lot better. Btw, I use older losi springs that are colored. I did a side by side comparison with spring diameter of the big bores and the older painted springs and found that the internal diameter is only a .5-1mm difference. Yes, prob makes a difference; but I don't care. I have a box of old losi springs in every color. Not about to spend another $100 for new springs.
Point is... For whoever is getting eye rolls from people when you mix parts or use older parts, just keep doing what you're doing. The lap times don't lie.
Keep on racin!
Oh and silver fronts steered more on my car 99% of the time.
03-21-2012 | 03:01 PM
Try the Proline Square Fuzzie M3. Andy, Brad, Austin, and a few other guys have been bugging me to get them some but since they are a new release I only have my personal sets. They hook up awesome at Glitch. As soon as they start hitting the shelves locally I foresee them being the new set to swear by at Glitch. When Josh runs the track dry your gonna want a Suburb style of tire in M3 compound. I run the Square Fuzzie M4 at Glitch when its wet, clean with simple green after the race and I get a lot of use out of them. Wheel spin is what kills tires. What motor are you using? I think I remember you mentioning a Castle 5700kv. Thats a tire killer.
Thanks Mike!BTW, you must be crazy to think I'd run a Castle 5700 motor. That's ridiculous. I don't know who told you that! I'd have to be pretty stupid to do that. Wow.
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It's a 4600.
03-21-2012 | 03:01 PM
I wish I knew why that was funny.
I guess RCTech is the only place where a line like "Losi silver step pins!!" can elicit raucous laughter. Well, at least, in a smiley icon.
Busting your chops. But really, I don't know enough about Losi tires to know what you mean...
<edit: I looked them up. Hey, they're not out yet!>
Their website makes silver or red compound both look good, but then again, it's their website where they are promoting both.
Anybody have a reason to choose silver over red or vice-versa?
I guess RCTech is the only place where a line like "Losi silver step pins!!" can elicit raucous laughter. Well, at least, in a smiley icon.
Busting your chops. But really, I don't know enough about Losi tires to know what you mean...<edit: I looked them up. Hey, they're not out yet!>
Their website makes silver or red compound both look good, but then again, it's their website where they are promoting both.
Anybody have a reason to choose silver over red or vice-versa?
If you had been in the hobby 20 years ago... you would have gotten it. Step pins used to be the 'go to' tire for truck and buggy. Silver was the compound to have, as gold was hard as a rock. They lasted forever though.
Dont forget wheelspin also wears out tires prematurely. So always make an effort to be smooth on the throttle and youd be surprised how much longer your tires last...
03-21-2012 | 03:05 PM
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From: New Jersey
the compounds are temp sensitive... very temp sensitive. Red's tend to work best when it's really hot. I remember we used Red X's and Silver 7204's on our buggies back before there was 13 different compounds.
03-21-2012 | 03:18 PM
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Heck, I remember when gold was a step softer than the HT compound. Now THAT was a hard compound! I've still got a set of medium-compound (unknown brand) step pins hanging around in my pit box, just in case 
03-21-2012 | 03:52 PM
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From: New Jersey
take your battery out of the car, pop out the rear toe block and slip the weight in there. Then also put 1/4 in each rear triangle, 1/2 next to your reciever and then the front is prefernce. 1/4 in each front triangle and 1/2 in front of the servo.
03-21-2012 | 04:06 PM
I'm gonna try running my std chassis b4.1 on a very big track outdoor track. It's roughly 95' x 95'
Its hardpacked, brown/red clay with some loam on top, can someone suggest a good tire combo?
I'm planning on running a Revtech 17.5.
Its hardpacked, brown/red clay with some loam on top, can someone suggest a good tire combo?
I'm planning on running a Revtech 17.5.
03-21-2012 | 04:12 PM
Some Proline Shrubs sound like a good combo for that.
03-21-2012 | 04:55 PM
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before the b4.1 was released, they came standard in all b4 ft kits! those tires worked quite well in the mourning before the track dried up allowing for us to run blue bar codes by the second round of qualifing.
03-21-2012 | 05:10 PM
