I decided not to get the FT kit as my LHS had the old standard kit for a good price and I was going to upgrade the arms, wheels & tires on the FT kit anyway, and though the extra $100 could be better spent other than on Ti turnbuckles & blue screws.

That being said are there any other "Must have" upgrades I need? It's a late model kit so it has the adjustable rear toe plate.

You will like that Revtech I am running a 8.5 and it works great :nod:

thanks. I am a ballistic fan because of the stators but since its coming in anyway, might as well give it a try.

The last race we almost had a fistfight when they announced we were going to run 10 minutes. I hear what you're saying, I know guys do it, but not at my local track.

To anyone wanting to run Losi or Kyosho BB springs: Depending on what rate you pick and where you have them mounted, you may have trouble getting your ride height low enough. While doing some bench checking, I had to physically remove the adjustment collar from the shock to get it to sit low enough, if you are using the Traxxas spring collar.

What that means is you can't adjust the ride height. What you got is what you got, or it's waaaaaayy too high.

There are a couple of ways to fix this. One I found over on the B4.1 thread:

Cutting the eyelet down .060 takes roughly 5mm of ride height out. The other solution is here:

http://www.ghea.se/produkt.php?fid=a..._esp_1_pid=164

They are only 4mm tall, so that will also get you some more adjustment. You can order them from GHEA or a couple of online venders here in the states.

Anyway, I feel a lot better. I blew $40 on Kyosho springs only to discover they weren't going to work because my truck had something like 38mm of ride height....

Upgrade to the SC10 4x4 parts. From a couple of hundred pages back:

I saw a lot of guys break the rear one, so I did this on mine before it happened to me. However, this only works on the rears. If you have problems with the fronts coming off, don't know what to tell you.

Craig who sells GHEA in the states? I was gonna paypal this just now and it said

25.00
Shipping and handling loading...50.00
Total:175.00 SEK

What is SEK? :confused::lol:

Thats their swedish currency. I believe it comes out to like $25.73 US.

The Durango springs don't rub on the shock body, are cheap and you can use the original shock collar and spring seat. There are comments from one of the AE guys on the B4.1 thread talking about BB's and such if anyone is interested.

I don't understand the whole bb spring thing.. from what I see its just so the spring don't rub the shock body the tiny bit they do? Right? Or is there something about the way the larger spring works that makes them so great?

This is quoted from the b4.1 thread.
Originally Posted by Ostach24 View Post
Here is a question I have for the 4 or 4.1 guys. Why do you insist on using other springs or big bore springs? The only reason I could see would be if it were a different rate... Anyone else have any other answers?



Aside from the springs rubbing there are other benefits to the BB springs. Since they are a larger diameter, for a similar spring rate the willingness for the spring to buckle reduces substantially, and therefor decreases any side loading that would be imparted onto the shock (also causes the rubbing). This side loading increases shock shaft drag and reduces the amount of force being transferred to the tire. A lower force (downward), especially when cornering decreases tire grip. Both of the Ryans feel that our standard shock creates more side-bite than a BB, at the expense of the car not landing big jumps as well. I personally don't really think BB's are better, and we have been able to prove that they are magical (significantly faster) in any sense but there are some small advantages. I think people in general just think they need them....but we are working on our BB shocks and they will definitely be THE BEST!
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Makes good sense. But how come the shocks from.the 4x4 can't be used? Is there something im missing. Im new the the sc10 world. I've only ran 8th scale.

I ordered mine here:

http://www.absolutehobbyz.com/produc...oducts_id=8480


Neither do the Losi's, but they are slightly too long. The Kyoshos are the ones that really need the help. The Losi springs today are the same as they were 20 years ago insofar as rates and what color is what spring, so for me, it's confortable.

Jeff beat me to it. Frankly, I don't have any drama with the AE springs (mine don't rub) but it's a lot of work to keep them that way.

Alot of work doing what... and also.. about the spring bending to the sides.. my 16mm rc8t springs did the same thing on my truggy. Is it different with a larger spring on a 10th scale?

We've got about 20 pages of spring talk on the B4 thread. I've tried Kyosho springs, AE springs and Durango springs. Finding the right spring rate front to rear is more important than whether the spring rubs or any of the other things commented on. Just my two cents and now I'll shut up. :p

brent701 has the Losi spring rates to AE spring rates.

looking fwd to trying these out

They are meant for a heavier truck. You may be able to physically fit them, but I don't think they are the same length, If you used the lightest springs, really light oil and 4 hole pistons you might be able to get them to work, but wouldn't have much tuneablity.

I've never tried it myself, just thinking out loud.