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AlanHall 01-22-2012 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Mizchief (Post 10211933)
They are meant for a heavier truck. You may be able to physically fit them, but I don't think they are the same length, If you used the lightest springs, really light oil and 4 hole pistons you might be able to get them to work, but wouldn't have much tuneablity.

I've never tried it myself, just thinking out loud.

Ok. I wasent sure how different they were length wise.

CraigMBA 01-22-2012 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by AlanHall (Post 10211705)
Alot of work doing what... and also.. about the spring bending to the sides.. my 16mm rc8t springs did the same thing on my truggy. Is it different with a larger spring on a 10th scale?

Keeping them square with the shock bodies, all springs bend when they are compressed. The problem is they are so light to get the spring rate correct, when they are compressed, they "dump" to one side. Rubbing on the shock is just a symptiom of the problem, and we could argue how significant it is but the fact is it should never ever happen. Increasing the air gap between the spring and the shock is one way to handle it.

But don't take my word for it. Jeff cited the post Tim@AE made on the subject in the B4.1 thread:


Originally Posted by patiofurniture (Post 10209455)
Aside from the springs rubbing there are other benefits to the BB springs. Since they are a larger diameter, for a similar spring rate the willingness for the spring to buckle reduces substantially, and therefor decreases any side loading that would be imparted onto the shock (also causes the rubbing). This side loading increases shock shaft drag and reduces the amount of force being transferred to the tire. A lower force (downward), especially when cornering decreases tire grip.

The long and short of it is the big bores are coming from AE, and soon. To me, the shock isn't a big deal, but the spring is. Some of us don't want to wait.

brent701 01-22-2012 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by AlanHall (Post 10211634)
Makes good sense. But how come the shocks from.the 4x4 can't be used? Is there something im missing. Im new the the sc10 world. I've only ran 8th scale.

The rear's are about the same length but they are almost twice the diameter.

The front's are longer on the 4x4 by abut 1/4" to 1/2" and are twice the diameter

I thought about it a while ago if they would work. They aren't made for a light truck like the 2wd and with 8 cars/trucks to rebuild I don't have the time to try to space one out to fit on the tower or the a-arm.

CraigMBA 01-22-2012 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 10212242)
The rear's are about the same length but they are almost twice the diameter.

The front's are longer on the 4x4 by abut 1/4" to 1/2" and are twice the diameter

I thought about it a while ago if they would work. They aren't made for a light truck like the 2wd and with 8 cars/trucks to rebuild I don't have the time to try to space one out to fit on the tower or the a-arm.

Plus your spring selection is uber limited, which is the biggest issue. I think everyone can agree there's some real barriers to getting them mounted on 2w chassis.

Again, IMO, there is NOTHING wrong with the stock AE shocks. I don't even have V2's!

elex300 01-22-2012 10:06 PM

I'm still having problems with my rear shocks allowing air in under the bleeder caps. I built them again just like the video on youtube with 0 rebound. When I finish thay are fine but as soon as I pull the shaft out to put the springs on you can hear the air go in. Then if you push the shaft back up it's full of air and only goes half way up unless you force it,then it rebounds half way out. I even marked where the leaks are and it's the same every time. I've replace everything but the shock bodies. I don't get it. I will be contacting AE tomorrow. So far i'm not impressed with these shocks.:flaming:

brent701 01-22-2012 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10212276)
Plus your spring selection is uber limited, which is the biggest issue. I think everyone can agree there's some real barriers to getting them mounted on 2w chassis.

Again, IMO, there is NOTHING wrong with the stock AE shocks. I don't even have V2's!

Agree..

I have the V2's though. lol

bds81175 01-23-2012 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10212276)
Plus your spring selection is uber limited, which is the biggest issue. I think everyone can agree there's some real barriers to getting them mounted on 2w chassis.

Again, IMO, there is NOTHING wrong with the stock AE shocks. I don't even have V2's!

The only advantage of the V2 over the V1 is the ease of working with the O-rings. Other than that, the V1's work fine. I used V1's for quite a while.

ravencr 01-23-2012 04:48 AM

Anybody know if the stock brushless motor that comes on the SC10 is sensored or not? It's a 17.5 turn, right?

Chris

Ryno B4.1 01-23-2012 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by ravencr (Post 10213071)
Anybody know if the stock brushless motor that comes on the SC10 is sensored or not? It's a 17.5 turn, right?

Chris

It is not Sensored and it is equiluvant to a 13.5, some may even say it is more like a "12.5" because it is more powerful than a standard 13.5. It is a decent motor and very fast you just need to watch your temps with that motor

ravencr 01-23-2012 05:33 AM

I was afraid you might say that...I was hoping it was sensored, so I could run it in my Losi Crawler. :) Oh well...time to spend more money.

Chris

Asharus 01-23-2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by idrummerboy13 (Post 10209002)
i read the sonic reedy motors are good, ik that a bud of mine uses rev tech in all cars and he loves it in the sc10 it runs well.

Viper for me has been really great. They run cooler than most but with more power but the power band is soft. Good brakes,

MY NOVAK used to run 150 after main with the same gearing on viper it ran 30 degrees color.=] and it just worked. So basically 17.5 trinity motors, reedy,viper..thats all i can recommend bc ik people are very happy with them.

Hey, that's me :D

Yes, Revtech is awesome for NT or "blinky" classes, but if you're running 17.5 boosted, the D3 should have a better powerband from what I've heard.

With that said, I gear my Revtech in 17.5 blinky at 75/26, with max timing on the can. Comes off at 150F after 6 mins. It's stupid fast. Unfortunately I haven't run my SC in a while and have been focusing on my buggies. I'm waiting on a good BB spring setup for the SC10. I tried driving it last week and it felt like crap after getting used to the B4/B44 with Losi BBs.

JungleGeo 01-23-2012 06:53 AM

anybody ever tried adding a little clay to the inside of the rear wheels in order to increase the effect of throttle and brake input in the air?

gamedog1966 01-23-2012 06:56 AM

shocks
 
I have seen kyosho shocks and springs on a b4.1 I wonder bhow would they perfom on a sc 10. Would they mess up the suspension geometry of the truck n any negative way? Can someone help me?:confused:

kc_nitro_rc 01-23-2012 07:07 AM

Broke out in hives
 
Tried the 'big bore' Kyosho & Losi springs on my SC10 and the truck broke out in hives. Had to remove them.

JEFFs SC10 01-23-2012 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by gamedog1966 (Post 10213426)
I have seen kyosho shocks and springs on a b4.1 I wonder bhow would they perfom on a sc 10. Would they mess up the suspension geometry of the truck n any negative way? Can someone help me?:confused:

couple.buddies of mine run them with great results. Kyosho shocks are awesome.


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