Serpent 710
11-17-2003 | 12:10 AM
#811
Tech Adept
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 247
From: Near Serpent (grrrr)
Originally posted by Novarossi
Its looks like Marketing @ Serpent have sent out all these Team Drivers to sell the 710
Where were these guys during the 705 + Impluse days?
Its looks like Marketing @ Serpent have sent out all these Team Drivers to sell the 710
Where were these guys during the 705 + Impluse days?
Maybe now they have a little (read a lot) timeoff to drive the 710, before starting a followup
11-17-2003 | 12:19 AM
#812
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Originally posted by GoldFinger
During Impulse+705 days, I thought the atmosphere was not as high as now, maybe they kept busy with da 905.. Am I right guys ?
During Impulse+705 days, I thought the atmosphere was not as high as now, maybe they kept busy with da 905..
Am I right guys ?
I believe also Schrijver99 told Julius or Rene about this forum personally !
11-17-2003 | 01:11 AM
#814
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
Originally posted by Rene C.
Why you want to drive that much overdrive? A 4mm smaller tyre means less driving time.
Why you want to drive that much overdrive? A 4mm smaller tyre means less driving time.
Yup, smaller tires mean less run time but not with front tires as I have never seen any racer finish the front tires before finishing the rear.
Originally posted by Rene C.
When you have a traction-roll problem, and you had to use smaller rear tyres like 60 the front tyres must be 56. So the driving time is nearly zero.
When you have a traction-roll problem, and you had to use smaller rear tyres like 60 the front tyres must be 56. So the driving time is nearly zero.
The fact that front tires don't eat so much on the track, 56 mm should last longer than the rear tires.
Originally posted by Rene C.
With the 710 the rear tyre wear is better then with the 705. Every time a car slides, the tyre wear’s. The 710 is more in balance, so the rear don’t slides that much. It’s still more than the front tyres.
With the 710 the rear tyre wear is better then with the 705. Every time a car slides, the tyre wear’s. The 710 is more in balance, so the rear don’t slides that much. It’s still more than the front tyres.
The reason why I like to run a 4.5 mm split on the 705 (with 18T/22T/47T) is because because giving you more steering, I find that at the end of the day after a 30 minute run, the front and rear tires still maintains about 3 mm split which does not give you a lot of overdrive that makes car handling different from when you start the car till when you finish the race.
For your info, the new Kyohso V1RR EVO uses a 4 mm split built into their drivetrain.
11-17-2003 | 01:14 AM
#815
Tech Adept
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 229
From: Planet Earth
Originally posted by Rene C.
With fuel ?
I only know (like the rules sad) without fuel.
So our test car is 1675gramms.
But it’s not exactly. With different (smaller or bigger) Tyres, or different hardness, or with different radio, body and even colours the weight can be different.
With fuel ?
I only know (like the rules sad) without fuel.
So our test car is 1675gramms.
But it’s not exactly. With different (smaller or bigger) Tyres, or different hardness, or with different radio, body and even colours the weight can be different.
SN
11-17-2003 | 01:17 AM
#816
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Wheelbase Question...
Earlier on, there were rumours mentioned that the 710 is able to adjust the wheelbase but I found that this is not mentioned on mytsn.
I assume since the car is equipped with ecentres in the front and rear to adjust belt tension, changing the belt tensions you change the wheelbase too? No?
I assume since the car is equipped with ecentres in the front and rear to adjust belt tension, changing the belt tensions you change the wheelbase too? No?
11-17-2003 | 01:30 AM
#818
Tech Fanatic
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 783
Re: Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
Originally posted by InitialD
The reason why I like to run a 4.5 mm split on the 705 (with 18T/22T/47T) is because because giving you more steering, I find that at the end of the day after a 30 minute run, the front and rear tires still maintains about 3 mm split which does not give you a lot of overdrive that makes car handling different from when you start the car till when you finish the race.
The reason why I like to run a 4.5 mm split on the 705 (with 18T/22T/47T) is because because giving you more steering, I find that at the end of the day after a 30 minute run, the front and rear tires still maintains about 3 mm split which does not give you a lot of overdrive that makes car handling different from when you start the car till when you finish the race.
With this split and OD like "D" mentioned, this is the best handling for 705 I've ever run.
My last week 45min race , start with 60(FR)/ 64(RR) ended up at 57/57.5 at front and 60/61 at rear.
11-17-2003 | 01:41 AM
#819
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
Originally posted by GoldFinger
Confirm! to this 705 tyre split.
With this split and OD like "D" mentioned, this is the best handling for 705 I've ever run.
My last week 45min race , start with 60(FR)/ 64(RR) ended up at 57/57.5 at front and 60/61 at rear.
Confirm! to this 705 tyre split.
With this split and OD like "D" mentioned, this is the best handling for 705 I've ever run.
My last week 45min race , start with 60(FR)/ 64(RR) ended up at 57/57.5 at front and 60/61 at rear.
Still we can try using the optional 23T pulley from the 705 and see how it works on the 710...
11-17-2003 | 01:53 AM
#820
Tech Prophet
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,679
From: MORDOR
I don't know if any of the Holland team drivers or R&D have seen Ralph Burch's 705 for the US Nats. The upper rear arms were a little different and was mounted inner on the rear bearing block and towards the middle centreline. Has that got anything to do with being inspired by the 710 design? What difference would that make on the 705? Longer rear arms, better chamber change etc? I also saw that he shortened the wheelbase in the front tires.
Sorry for all this barrage of questions but I just needed to get it off my head !!
Sorry for all this barrage of questions but I just needed to get it off my head !!
11-17-2003 | 04:11 AM
#821
Tech Initiate
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 24
From: Belgium
QUESTION CATEGORY: Assembly RELATED PRODUCT: Serpent 710 4WD
Optionals
what kind of optionals will you offer for the car
Ronald Baar (NL) 14−11−03 at 17:18
quite a few different ones: optional chassis, front ball-differential, alu shockhousings front and rear, ceramic ball-bearings, aluminium pulleys, some titanium parts, race-brake-pads, ventilated disk-brake, support-springs-set, different shock-springs, different 2-speed gears, tank-bracket carbon; some of these items will be available right away, others items may take a few months before release; check the website frequently.
AN OPTIONAL CHASSIS????
. WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN THE ORIGINAL 4MM CHASSIS.
WHICH KIND OF TITANIUM PARTS ARE YOU THINKING OF?
Optionals
what kind of optionals will you offer for the car
Ronald Baar (NL) 14−11−03 at 17:18
quite a few different ones: optional chassis, front ball-differential, alu shockhousings front and rear, ceramic ball-bearings, aluminium pulleys, some titanium parts, race-brake-pads, ventilated disk-brake, support-springs-set, different shock-springs, different 2-speed gears, tank-bracket carbon; some of these items will be available right away, others items may take a few months before release; check the website frequently.
AN OPTIONAL CHASSIS????
. WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN THE ORIGINAL 4MM CHASSIS. WHICH KIND OF TITANIUM PARTS ARE YOU THINKING OF?
11-17-2003 | 05:11 AM
#825
Tech Rookie
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 7
Pre production 710 roll out
Hi guy's
follow this link to read my report on the 710 roll out >>>>>>
http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9301
Greetzzzzz
Rob
follow this link to read my report on the 710 roll out >>>>>>
http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9301
Greetzzzzz
Rob