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Old 02-25-2015 | 03:29 PM
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If you are seeing the F and R light alternating its a high amp spike warning, the speed control is shutting down to protect itself. The amp spike is coming from either the motor (internally), motor sensor, or connection issue (with either motor or battery). The speed control is trying to protect itself from being damaged from the amp spike.

Things to try would include - different motor, resolder all connections (including any plugs), replace plugs (either on esc or battery side - maybe both). The fault is not within the speed control. Its trying to keep an outside source from damaging the unit.

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Ok I have a theory tore down truck today on the end bell of the motor there is a spot where it appers it has been hitting the chassis. Normally the motor sits just slightly off the chassis I am think on a hard landing the motor is hitting the chassis. Could this be causing a quick spike or short on impact?
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Old 02-25-2015 | 03:45 PM
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Ok I have a theory tore down truck today on the end bell of the motor there is a spot where it appers it has been hitting the chassis. Normally the motor sits just slightly off the chassis I am think on a hard landing the motor is hitting the chassis. Could this be causing a quick spike or short on impact?
that could give a spike.
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Old 02-25-2015 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Neverstop
Ok I have a theory tore down truck today on the end bell of the motor there is a spot where it appers it has been hitting the chassis. Normally the motor sits just slightly off the chassis I am think on a hard landing the motor is hitting the chassis. Could this be causing a quick spike or short on impact?
It can also cause internal damage to the motor - causing excessive amp draw.
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Old 02-26-2015 | 01:07 PM
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I have a B44.2 with the complete Schelle Conversion will be purchasing a new speed control for soon which version of should I buy the VTX10r or the VTX10rBE the specs are very close and I am back and fourth with my decision being that space is of a premium one of these will be the choice. My issue is the more powerful capacitor on the BE black version or the less powerful capacitor on the Red version. In that they are the same price and basically the same size the external capacitor being the difference. How much will the external capacitor improve the performance of the ESC.

Also another question how much longer will the site be down for it's rebuilding so I can get the downloads.

Thanks for your opinions and advise,
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Old 02-27-2015 | 11:52 AM
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The biggest difference between the two is really the color on the faceplate. The capacitors are essentially identical - mount different mostly because the company that made the mount board for us, changed the specs. If you didn't know which one you had, you would never "feel" a difference in performance.

As for downloads - PM me with what you needed. Anything being purchased now would come with the most up to date software. If its something else let me know. Website may be down a month or so, depending on how fast the work gets done.
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Old 02-27-2015 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nikos2002
The biggest difference between the two is really the color on the faceplate. The capacitors are essentially identical - mount different mostly because the company that made the mount board for us, changed the specs. If you didn't know which one you had, you would never "feel" a difference in performance.

As for downloads - PM me with what you needed. Anything being purchased now would come with the most up to date software. If its something else let me know. Website may be down a month or so, depending on how fast the work gets done.
Heck Nick anyword on if you will in the future offer some of the ESCs as a non-wired option?
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Nick,
Thank You for your response. Looks like I'll be purchasing the VTX10R Orange Version next week. I'll pm you if I need the downloads when it arrives. Being that the ESC's come pre-wired how long are the wires and does it come with a sensor wire or should I pick one up when I purchase the ESC.

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Old 02-27-2015 | 07:01 PM
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Have a question regarding throttle endpoints and timing. I'm wondering if I can set my motor timing through the ESC to the maximum, say 40°, turn my throttle endpoints down and then just adjust my timing up or down through my radio's thottle endpoints instead of through the ez link all the time? Will this still be like running 40° no matter where my throttle endpoints are set, even if they are turned down, say 70%? And is it recommended not to do it this way and just adjust it through the ez link like I've always done? Just trying to do adjustments like this on the stand...cause I'm lazy! Lol, Thanks
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Old 03-03-2015 | 03:21 PM
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Which M12 servo mode is best for Vipers, nor, shr or ssr? Finally picked up an M12 to replace my trusty M11.
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Old 03-05-2015 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ILRacer
Nick,
Thank You for your response. Looks like I'll be purchasing the VTX10R Orange Version next week. I'll pm you if I need the downloads when it arrives. Being that the ESC's come pre-wired how long are the wires and does it come with a sensor wire or should I pick one up when I purchase the ESC.

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Mike, don't have a unit in front of me to measure, but they are pretty long, shouldn't be an issue with most 1/10 vehicles on the market. We don't include sensor wires with the speed control, we put them with the motor packages. Unless the unit has been sitting a shelf somewhere for over a year - it won't need any updates.
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Old 03-05-2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rage1945
Have a question regarding throttle endpoints and timing. I'm wondering if I can set my motor timing through the ESC to the maximum, say 40°, turn my throttle endpoints down and then just adjust my timing up or down through my radio's thottle endpoints instead of through the ez link all the time? Will this still be like running 40° no matter where my throttle endpoints are set, even if they are turned down, say 70%? And is it recommended not to do it this way and just adjust it through the ez link like I've always done? Just trying to do adjustments like this on the stand...cause I'm lazy! Lol, Thanks
I think things would start to get awkward trying that. First - if you have to put 40* timing in anything - just motor up, your asking for more trouble than its worth. We don't recommend more than 60* combined with physical timing, acceleration timing and top end timing.

Lowering endpoint is like putting a limit on overall throttle travel, so yes it will slow down the process, but it can also change how the power band responds, can't think that would help in most circumstances. Maybe little exponential if your getting wheel spin, but even then, if you have to go passed -20, use the EZLink to turn down Punch.
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Old 03-05-2015 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wingracer
Which M12 servo mode is best for Vipers, nor, shr or ssr? Finally picked up an M12 to replace my trusty M11.
We have had drivers using the M12 with our speedos since the unit came out. My guess would be what ever is the stock setting works just fine - no one has ever complained.

I know a few years ago we saw some issue with a similar setting and KO radios - but between our software updates and KO's, haven't heard of that in years.
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Old 03-05-2015 | 03:18 PM
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I know it will work. Pretty much everything works in normal mode. Just curious if it supports the higher frame rates shr and ssr mode provide. I know LRPs now support ssr but I haven't heard of any others doing it. I'll try it out and see I guess.
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Old 03-06-2015 | 06:46 AM
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Just purchased a new 1/8th scale and need to purchase motor & ESC. I currently have 1 vehicle with Viper system and one with a Tekin system. I was leaning towards Viper in my 1/8th scale. I've been told by LHS that they are having issues and can't get any of what I need right now? What's the story on this and any ideas when they will be available? I want to get this kit on the road within the next month so I'm not going to be able to wait much longer.
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Old 03-06-2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt1970
Just purchased a new 1/8th scale and need to purchase motor & ESC. I currently have 1 vehicle with Viper system and one with a Tekin system. I was leaning towards Viper in my 1/8th scale. I've been told by LHS that they are having issues and can't get any of what I need right now? What's the story on this and any ideas when they will be available? I want to get this kit on the road within the next month so I'm not going to be able to wait much longer.
for a separate issue I am working with Viper on it sounded like they were waiting for some product to "arrive". I dont' recall the specifics on what was holding it up though as I am waiting on a new VTX8 and a new Xpert servo. Lucky for me I have other electronics I can use, though I am bummed that having bought the servo back towards end of november I haven't been able to run it at all.
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