Viper RC -
#8791
bob- hold on tight!! we have actually seen team drivers run Punch as low as 20 to keep the wheelspin down.
boostem - glad you figured it out - sometimes the neutral signal is not clear from the radio. but you got it going.
Neo 13 update - Lee Martin uses the VTX8 and new VF8 2100kv motor to lead 1st round of eBuggy practice. He was 4th in round 2, but his 1st round run was still good enough for 2nd fastest so far. Fingers crossed!!!!!
boostem - glad you figured it out - sometimes the neutral signal is not clear from the radio. but you got it going.
Neo 13 update - Lee Martin uses the VTX8 and new VF8 2100kv motor to lead 1st round of eBuggy practice. He was 4th in round 2, but his 1st round run was still good enough for 2nd fastest so far. Fingers crossed!!!!!
#8792
Can you give me some insight on when to use what motor please sir?
VF8.19 (1900kv)
In what buggy or truck?
On what type of track?
VF8.21 (2100kv)
In what buggy or truck?
On what type of track?
VF8.27 (2700kv)
In what buggy or truck?
On what type of track?
Thank you sir
#8793
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
bob- hold on tight!! we have actually seen team drivers run Punch as low as 20 to keep the wheelspin down.
Neo 13 update - Lee Martin uses the VTX8 and new VF8 2100kv motor to lead 1st round of eBuggy practice. He was 4th in round 2, but his 1st round run was still good enough for 2nd fastest so far. Fingers crossed!!!!!
Neo 13 update - Lee Martin uses the VTX8 and new VF8 2100kv motor to lead 1st round of eBuggy practice. He was 4th in round 2, but his 1st round run was still good enough for 2nd fastest so far. Fingers crossed!!!!!
So Nick,
Lee, Neo, 2100
#8794
I think what you may to look at for truck versus buggy is can length. That is primarily what all the other guys have as the difference.
But, to be honest, in a pinch I had to throw in a buggy motor into a truggy once, and to be honest it worked just fine.
But, to be honest, in a pinch I had to throw in a buggy motor into a truggy once, and to be honest it worked just fine.
#8795
Tech Adept
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 170
From an electrical stand point the cap really acts as a low pass filter. Kinda like on a speaker crossover. The cross over send all the high pitch noise to the tweeter and the low pitch to the woofer. In this case the capacitor acts like a speaker cross over with no tweeter. The high frequencies produced by the ESC during acceleration and breaking get filtered by the capacitor. The low frequencies (i.e. DC voltage) come from the battery.
So how in return do you get better run time and acceleration. The key here is the effect of the cap on the battery. Lipo's are DC, under a PWN driven motor (ESC) the power required to drive the system has lots of transients (i.e. high frequency noise). Batteries have a hard time with producing that power. With out a capacitor the battery would heat up and have high voltage drop accross it. Thus lower run time and less acceleration. The impedence (i.e. resistance and reactance) of a capacitor decreases as a function of the frequency of the signal applied to it.
No from that perspective you have a battery that doesn't have a lot of resistance under low frequencies DC in our case. The capacitor has low impedence under high frequencies. So electricity always follows the shortest and easiest path. The high frequency signal will flow through the capacitor and the low frequency DC goes through the battery.
If I had a FFT spectrum analyzer I could easily show this with a graph or two maybe need a third. Not only that I always see this question on this forum. But when it comes down to it a bigger capacitor makes life easier for you lipos. Thats why caps are a good thing.
#8796
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iTrader: (21)
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Posts: 1,345
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-pass_filter
From an electrical stand point the cap really acts as a low pass filter. Kinda like on a speaker crossover. The cross over send all the high pitch noise to the tweeter and the low pitch to the woofer. In this case the capacitor acts like a speaker cross over with no tweeter. The high frequencies produced by the ESC during acceleration and breaking get filtered by the capacitor. The low frequencies (i.e. DC voltage) come from the battery.
So how in return do you get better run time and acceleration. The key here is the effect of the cap on the battery. Lipo's are DC, under a PWN driven motor (ESC) the power required to drive the system has lots of transients (i.e. high frequency noise). Batteries have a hard time with producing that power. With out a capacitor the battery would heat up and have high voltage drop accross it. Thus lower run time and less acceleration. The impedence (i.e. resistance and reactance) of a capacitor decreases as a function of the frequency of the signal applied to it.
No from that perspective you have a battery that doesn't have a lot of resistance under low frequencies DC in our case. The capacitor has low impedence under high frequencies. So electricity always follows the shortest and easiest path. The high frequency signal will flow through the capacitor and the low frequency DC goes through the battery.
If I had a FFT spectrum analyzer I could easily show this with a graph or two maybe need a third. Not only that I always see this question on this forum. But when it comes down to it a bigger capacitor makes life easier for you lipos. Thats why caps are a good thing.
From an electrical stand point the cap really acts as a low pass filter. Kinda like on a speaker crossover. The cross over send all the high pitch noise to the tweeter and the low pitch to the woofer. In this case the capacitor acts like a speaker cross over with no tweeter. The high frequencies produced by the ESC during acceleration and breaking get filtered by the capacitor. The low frequencies (i.e. DC voltage) come from the battery.
So how in return do you get better run time and acceleration. The key here is the effect of the cap on the battery. Lipo's are DC, under a PWN driven motor (ESC) the power required to drive the system has lots of transients (i.e. high frequency noise). Batteries have a hard time with producing that power. With out a capacitor the battery would heat up and have high voltage drop accross it. Thus lower run time and less acceleration. The impedence (i.e. resistance and reactance) of a capacitor decreases as a function of the frequency of the signal applied to it.
No from that perspective you have a battery that doesn't have a lot of resistance under low frequencies DC in our case. The capacitor has low impedence under high frequencies. So electricity always follows the shortest and easiest path. The high frequency signal will flow through the capacitor and the low frequency DC goes through the battery.
If I had a FFT spectrum analyzer I could easily show this with a graph or two maybe need a third. Not only that I always see this question on this forum. But when it comes down to it a bigger capacitor makes life easier for you lipos. Thats why caps are a good thing.
How does it impact the heat generated by the motor and esc?
#8797
Tech Adept
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 170
#8798
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 64
From: Arab, Al
Just received the copperhead VX4R.45 I am assuming since the wires aren't marked it doesn't matter what order they are connected to the ESC?
Also when I turn motor shaft by hand should it be smooth or a considerable amount of resistance?
Thanks in advance for your info.
Also when I turn motor shaft by hand should it be smooth or a considerable amount of resistance?
Thanks in advance for your info.
#8799
The motor will feel notchy. As far as the wires, hook them up any way. If the motor turns the wrong way, reverse any two.
#8802
Got to hook up one of my VTX8's. Was a bit getting used to coming from SP, Castle, and Tekin style setups. But in a good way too 
I am pretty impressed with the quality feel of the case. But as a side note, make sure you have a GOOD soldering iron as I think it wicks away at the heat. I had to reset my soldering gun tips to get it to work right.
The V-port setup is awesome! I love not having to mess around pulling my receiver wire to do anything. Only thing I hope you guys do in the future is maybe offer that on the case itself.
Now, to the one issue I thought I had resolved but I guess I didn't follow, I thought out of the box I was all set to connect the ESC to my PC, but it appears I need to buy the PC Link. Not a big knock here, I guess I didn't find it clear what I needed.
Lastly, can someone give me a better explanation than what Throttle PWM Frequency is done in the manual? Coming from the world where I can adjust Timing, boost etc, I recall something similar to this on other ESCs and I am a bit lost.
Other than that, I believe I am going to very happy

I am pretty impressed with the quality feel of the case. But as a side note, make sure you have a GOOD soldering iron as I think it wicks away at the heat. I had to reset my soldering gun tips to get it to work right.
The V-port setup is awesome! I love not having to mess around pulling my receiver wire to do anything. Only thing I hope you guys do in the future is maybe offer that on the case itself.
Now, to the one issue I thought I had resolved but I guess I didn't follow, I thought out of the box I was all set to connect the ESC to my PC, but it appears I need to buy the PC Link. Not a big knock here, I guess I didn't find it clear what I needed.
Lastly, can someone give me a better explanation than what Throttle PWM Frequency is done in the manual? Coming from the world where I can adjust Timing, boost etc, I recall something similar to this on other ESCs and I am a bit lost.
Other than that, I believe I am going to very happy
#8803
Tech Adept
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 170
Yes it does. But I still run 1/8 scale at 4s. Would be far to expensive to buy all those batteries.
#8804
EB48.2 - Check
Esc Viper -Check
Rx Futaba 614fs - Need
Motor VF8-Need
Pro9 Cap-Need
PRogauge-Check
Packs-Check
Servo- Check
Transponder-Check
Novak Mod 1 pinions 15t-20t- Need
Tekno 8x1.3 piston - Need
Kyosho Springs Blue F/Orange R-Check
tekno Hubs front and Rear 1mm and 2mm- Need
6mm RCPROPLUS Supra X Gold Bullet Polarised Battery Connectors- Need
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._5_pairs_.html
JConcepts Finnisher Tekno EB48 Body -Need
Tekno Front Arms-Need
TKR5253 - Tekno RC Aluminum Servo Horn-Need
Viper PC link--Need or not????
I like to buy once even if I have to wait a little.
#8805
If you want to make changes to your VTX8 settings on your PC and update the firmware for it , you will need the PC Link from what i am seeing.
However, with 1/8 4S, I haven't really found a need for a lot of the various boosting, etc features That for some ESCs I think you need to modify on a PC. With the EZ Link / Pro gauge, seems like everything I woudl want to set is there.
but having the option to upgrade it would be a big plus, hence the PC Link.
However, with 1/8 4S, I haven't really found a need for a lot of the various boosting, etc features That for some ESCs I think you need to modify on a PC. With the EZ Link / Pro gauge, seems like everything I woudl want to set is there.
but having the option to upgrade it would be a big plus, hence the PC Link.



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