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nikos2002 01-17-2013 08:25 PM

30º is good for most applications. Only time I turn a motor up is when I am running 17.5 or 21.5 motors.

naffer 01-17-2013 11:16 PM

in the summer i turned the can timing down on my VST XL 4.5 in my SCTE to 15*.

here in texas running in 100*+ weather the motor was running very hot and through testing i discovered that turning down the timing from 30* to 15* let it run almost 10* cooler over the same period of time with only a minor decrease in speed/power.

FLHX1550 01-18-2013 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by JJay03 (Post 11690045)
Whats a good combo of motor and esc timing. I notice the motor comes with 30 degrees what would be different if the motor was just zero and the esc added 30degrees?
Im guessing its sort of like getting a camshaft for a car with some timing added then being able to also up the timing in the ecm.

I know of one hi profile AE driver who prefers 20 Deg with more gearing vs 30 deg and lower gearing base on how it "feels" in 2wd Buggy. Says the 20 degree setup is a little smoother out of the corner on slick tracks (he is running Reedy / LRP of course) but I have been temped to test this myself.

taztal3 01-18-2013 08:36 AM

anyone got the vtx8 esc yet ? anyone have try vtx8 esc on e-truggy yet ? how you feel you run e truggy ? if i buy a vtx8 esc with progauge and what esle i need it ? thanks

JJay03 01-18-2013 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by nikos2002 (Post 11692091)
30º is good for most applications. Only time I turn a motor up is when I am running 17.5 or 21.5 motors.

Ok thanks

JJay03 01-18-2013 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by FLHX1550 (Post 11693893)
I know of one hi profile AE driver who prefers 20 Deg with more gearing vs 30 deg and lower gearing base on how it "feels" in 2wd Buggy. Says the 20 degree setup is a little smoother out of the corner on slick tracks (he is running Reedy / LRP of course) but I have been temped to test this myself.

Thats kind of what I was wondering or maybe less motor timing and add some esc timing. A lot of different things to try.

JJay03 01-18-2013 07:13 PM

Got my truck back together cause I had the trans apart waiting on bearings. The steering does definitely glitch in reverse a little its not a huge deal but just odd?? I had issues with a longer then normal pause between forward and reverse so I recalibrate the remote to the esc and now I notice the reverse glitching.

Any one ever run into that? I go have a glitch buster maybe I should try without it.
Unhooking the glitchbuster did not help

Robby368 01-18-2013 08:24 PM

Hey folks I just got a vtx10r, 17.5, and programming card from our buy/sell/trade section here.

I have it set to profile #4 (17.5 boost) and did all the calibrations with my remote.

When I hit the power, it acts like it's bouncing on a rev-limiter at full throttle.

I have a new sensor wire on it and all esc wires are secure and soldered correctly.

Any ideas on what could be causing that? Sorry if this has been asked before, it's late and I didn't want to read through 444 pages :lol:

AndrewTom 01-18-2013 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Robby368 (Post 11697042)
Hey folks I just got a vtx10r, 17.5, and programming card from our buy/sell/trade section here.

I have it set to profile #4 (17.5 boost) and did all the calibrations with my remote.

When I hit the power, it acts like it's bouncing on a rev-limiter at full throttle.

I have a new sensor wire on it and all esc wires are secure and soldered correctly.

if its cutting out, it may be the voltage cut off. check to see where the cutoff is set at, I run 6.4 volts.

nikos2002 01-18-2013 10:54 PM

Robby, you might want to check the settings as well to make sure they are not set too high for boost timing, etc as well -- 17.5 you need to be careful how you set those parameters.

JJay, the times I have run reverse I never noticed a "glitch" make sure all your connection are solid even the receiver plugs. There is a delay built in with the reverse and forward, reverse is just an option and not one normally used in competition - which was the design premise of the devices.

taztel, we did test with e-truggy during development, if I remember right Gabriel won a race up in Maine with it, but we couldn't talk about it, because it wasn't available yet. If you get the VTX8 with the progauge you are set, just need whatever battery connectors you are using, a solder iron and few minutes to set it up.

Robby368 01-19-2013 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by nikos2002 (Post 11697461)
Robby, you might want to check the settings as well to make sure they are not set too high for boost timing, etc as well -- 17.5 you need to be careful how you set those parameters.


I've been making adjustments all morning and this is the best I've come up with....I have another 10R that doesn't do this and it has the identical settings... any clues?

The settings are in the description...

youtube vid

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

DustinH 01-19-2013 06:09 AM

I assume your battery is charged

nikos2002 01-19-2013 06:15 AM

Robby, I apologize if I missed this somewhere but did you try a different motor with speed control? Try that motor on your older 10R and see if it all reacts the same.

Watching the video makes me think motor problem.

Robby368 01-19-2013 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by DustinH (Post 11698033)
I assume your battery is charged

It was on 3.8 per cell (7.6v storage), the esc cutoff is at 6.4.

JJay03 01-19-2013 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by nikos2002 (Post 11697461)

JJay, the times I have run reverse I never noticed a "glitch" make sure all your connection are solid even the receiver plugs. There is a delay built in with the reverse and forward, reverse is just an option and not one normally used in competition - which was the design premise of the devices.

Thanks once I get a bit better i prob wont use reverse anyway. All the connections seems fine it just did this after recalibrating.


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