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Originally Posted by shimano
(Post 11326716)
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Originally Posted by Maximo
(Post 11326718)
the color looks good, but the pictures resolution is just not there to tell very much...how do the glowplug coils look ? to me they maybe look distorted ?
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Originally Posted by shimano
(Post 11326798)
That engine was running around 290 - 300 all day. I'm worried about the temps but it runs great at those settings. That has to be too hot doesn't it?
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Dual stage idle
As the title says what are the propable causes and how does one eliminate them? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Originally Posted by dia
(Post 11327914)
As the title says what are the propable causes and how does one eliminate them? Thanks in advance for any replies.
Some mechanical conditions might cause this but 90% of the time it is the tune. After you do this you may need to richen the HSN. |
Originally Posted by mjealey
(Post 11327985)
Your LSN is too rich, you compensate by widening your idle gap. This will burn off the fuel for a few seconds, once the fuel is burned off tin the crankcase the engine will drop to a normal idle. Lean the LSN until the idle does not drop, then lower your idle.
Some mechanical conditions might cause this but 90% of the time it is the tune. After you do this you may need to richen the HSN. also can be cause when a engine is starting to wear out..... it will not stay running stable unless its tuned with a 2 stage idle..... many times getting them repinched gets rid of the issue |
Originally Posted by mjealey
(Post 11327985)
Your LSN is too rich, you compensate by widening your idle gap. This will burn off the fuel for a few seconds, once the fuel is burned off tin the crankcase the engine will drop to a normal idle. Lean the LSN until the idle does not drop, then lower your idle.
Some mechanical conditions might cause this but 90% of the time it is the tune. After you do this you may need to richen the HSN. I`m used to O.S. engines, and while basics are the same, they dont tune the same IMO. |
Originally Posted by OleC
(Post 11328156)
So, before you lean out the LSN you should richen the HSN so this wont give you more weird tune? Would that be a general advice?
I`m used to O.S. engines, and while basics are the same, they dont tune the same IMO. |
Originally Posted by OleC
(Post 11328156)
So, before you lean out the LSN you should richen the HSN so this wont give you more weird tune? Would that be a general advice?
I`m used to O.S. engines, and while basics are the same, they dont tune the same IMO. I would not touch your HSN yet. Lean the LSN until the idle does not drop and stays consistant. Then drop your idle where it should be. If the engine is healthy you should be able to blip the throttle and the engine should return to a normal idle fairly quickly!!!!! Reminder, do this after the engine is warmed up also. Do not try to tune the LSN until it is warm. Then set it on the track and run it and dial in the HSN. You should be close and just make a small 1 hour adjustment at a time to get the HSN where it needs to be. Which nova are you running? I will disclose this...... I never never temp my engine when I run the Plus-4btt..... I could care less what the temp gun says. I can honestly say it has not seen a race day that the temp gun would have came in under 280!:) It is a short head that reads a little higher and could care less how hot it runs. As long as it is crisp with smoke you are good!!!!!! Never had an engine problem besides a leaking front bearing that had nothing to do with temp and have "multiple" and i do mean "multiple" gallons on the Nova's......:eek: Many say a good setting on the LSN = 4.5 turns out, HSN = 3 turns out. I am a little but richer than that on the bottom, and the same on the top due to our areas weather, etc..... |
Originally Posted by mjealey
(Post 11328187)
Many say a good setting on the LSN = 4.5 turns out, HSN = 3 turns out. I am a little but richer than that on the bottom, and the same on the top due to our areas weather, etc.....
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Originally Posted by beidle99
(Post 11328236)
My lsn is about 5 turns out and my HSN is a little past 4 turns out. A good sign that your close but a touch lean on the LSN is a slight hic-up coming off idle. sounds similar to a lean bog but very short and the motor isn't smooth coming off idle. When that happens I richen the LSN less then 1 hour and its perfect.
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Originally Posted by beidle99
(Post 11328236)
My lsn is about 5 turns out and my HSN is a little past 4 turns out. A good sign that your close but a touch lean on the LSN is a slight hic-up coming off idle. sounds similar to a lean bog but very short and the motor isn't smooth coming off idle. When that happens I richen the LSN less then 1 hour and its perfect.
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Originally Posted by mjealey
(Post 11328187)
Yes, I know what you are talking about!!!! I run OS a lot too besides my Novas and they do tune the differently. The LSN on the OS doesn't really do too much besides at idle. The Nova has a shorter needle on the LSN and tunes a little differently and requires you to get both of the needles in "sync" so to speak.
I would not touch your HSN yet. Lean the LSN until the idle does not drop and stays consistant. Then drop your idle where it should be. If the engine is healthy you should be able to blip the throttle and the engine should return to a normal idle fairly quickly!!!!! Reminder, do this after the engine is warmed up also. Do not try to tune the LSN until it is warm. Then set it on the track and run it and dial in the HSN. You should be close and just make a small 1 hour adjustment at a time to get the HSN where it needs to be. Which nova are you running? I will disclose this...... I never never temp my engine when I run the Plus-4btt..... I could care less what the temp gun says. I can honestly say it has not seen a race day that the temp gun would have came in under 280!:) It is a short head that reads a little higher and could care less how hot it runs. As long as it is crisp with smoke you are good!!!!!! Never had an engine problem besides a leaking front bearing that had nothing to do with temp and have "multiple" and i do mean "multiple" gallons on the Nova's......:eek: Many say a good setting on the LSN = 4.5 turns out, HSN = 3 turns out. I am a little but richer than that on the bottom, and the same on the top due to our areas weather, etc..... |
Originally Posted by chopper82p
(Post 11328279)
There is no "good setting", an engine will tune different based on its glow plug, fuel, location, wear, pipe, etc. You usually can't get away with using someone else's settings on your engine, too many variables.
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Originally Posted by chopper82p
(Post 11328279)
There is no "good setting", an engine will tune different based on its glow plug, fuel, location, wear, pipe, etc. You usually can't get away with using someone else's settings on your engine, too many variables.
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