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Old 11-20-2012 | 07:54 PM
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Monty, I took apart my problematic cody king for the first time and it is advertised as a 5 port but there were 7 ports???? Everything looked like new, and when I had my old 7 port apart I noticed that everything was the same diameter, so I put the crank from the cody king in my 7 port block, then when I was checking the pistons I noticed that my 7 port piston was about a thousandth bigger, so I put the old piston in the cody king sleeve and it was tighter than the cody king piston?? SO to make a long story short, I swapped out the 7 port piston with the cody king piston and put everything in the 7 port case and the end result was 12:18 run time and only 240 degrees It also had all the power I could handle and ran much better than it did in the cody king case. I also checked my stock losi 350 engine and the Orion head button will fit, it wasn't exact but the screws tightened up, it just rubbed a bit on the head button holes but everything was straight, and it also made the stock losi come to life.

I think there must be a crack in the cody king engine, I heard many people with the orion engines were finding cracks, and with an 8 gallon old engine case and basically switching out the internals and getting 12 minutes something I NEVER got on the cody king must mean something..
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Old 11-20-2012 | 08:00 PM
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Monty, I took apart my problematic cody king for the first time and it is advertised as a 5 port but there were 7 ports???? Everything looked like new, and when I had my old 7 port apart I noticed that everything was the same diameter, so I put the crank from the cody king in my 7 port block, then when I was checking the pistons I noticed that my 7 port piston was about a thousandth bigger, so I put the old piston in the cody king sleeve and it was tighter than the cody king piston?? SO to make a long story short, I swapped out the 7 port piston with the cody king piston and put everything in the 7 port case and the end result was 12:18 run time and only 240 degrees It also had all the power I could handle and ran much better than it did in the cody king case. I also checked my stock losi 350 engine and the Orion head button will fit, it wasn't exact but the screws tightened up, it just rubbed a bit on the head button holes but everything was straight, and it also made the stock losi come to life.

I think there must be a crack in the cody king engine, I heard many people with the orion engines were finding cracks, and with an 8 gallon old engine case and basically switching out the internals and getting 12 minutes something I NEVER got on the cody king must mean something..
Sweeet , at least you got the orion figured out finally

I wish we could go on vacation bro, got bills to pay though

Gotta keep on going to my day job
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Old 11-20-2012 | 10:29 PM
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Sweeet , at least you got the orion figured out finally

I wish we could go on vacation bro, got bills to pay though

Gotta keep on going to my day job
Well if ya ever get the chance and time i would be more than willing to show ya around if you made it here. Also they have a new track openng next weekend and are going to do truggy races so i will probably be hitting you up pretty soon for a 7xlfm so i can show these boys whats really up
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Well if ya ever get the chance and time i would be more than willing to show ya around if you made it here. Also they have a new track openng next weekend and are going to do truggy races so i will probably be hitting you up pretty soon for a 7xlfm so i can show these boys whats really up
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Old 11-24-2012 | 02:56 AM
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http://www.clbmodify.com/thread-8557...html#pid107475

Monty, today playing with the truggy, I was having problems with the idle, I know changing pistons and sleeves is not normally something one should attempt. But the fit was much tighter and today when playing it was running great holding between 230 and 245 on the temp, I know it wasn't tuned in for a race, but it was stronger than the stock Losi 454 that came on the truggy. When I would drop the idle it would start then die, typical of an old engine needing a pinch, but I just ran with the higher idle and I was running 11 to 12 minutes on a tank of fuel within the temp range I like. How much better in your opinion is the X7FM than the Werks B5 or the Bonitto? Also when you are storing an engine for a while, how much after run oil do you put in and do you roll the engine over a bit making sure everything is coated or just put it in through the top and carb and call it good? I did notice that when I took both Orion engines apart and my stock Losi 350 there was a bit of orange on the inside, nothing really bad, but enough that I noticed.
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Monty, today playing with the truggy, I was having problems with the idle, I know changing pistons and sleeves is not normally something one should attempt. But the fit was much tighter and today when playing it was running great holding between 230 and 245 on the temp, I know it wasn't tuned in for a race, but it was stronger than the stock Losi 454 that came on the truggy. When I would drop the idle it would start then die, typical of an old engine needing a pinch, but I just ran with the higher idle and I was running 11 to 12 minutes on a tank of fuel within the temp range I like. How much better in your opinion is the X7FM than the Werks B5 or the Bonitto? Also when you are storing an engine for a while, how much after run oil do you put in and do you roll the engine over a bit making sure everything is coated or just put it in through the top and carb and call it good? I did notice that when I took both Orion engines apart and my stock Losi 350 there was a bit of orange on the inside, nothing really bad, but enough that I noticed.
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Well Jerome I Am not the one who is gonna "toot the sh!t out if my own horn" like some , I much prefer to let the guys who run the engines all over the world tell you how they think the engines perform.

I will say ever since I put together the first X7 , I have not ran any other engine in my truck besides for testing purposes
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Old 11-24-2012 | 08:56 AM
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Jeromoe,
after seeing both the Bonito run and knowing the B5 and its "personality" get the X7. Watching the videos you posted looks like that track could be hell on motors with that long straight. And tell the guy in the background that its a car motor and should be tuned on the track not in the pits like and airplane motor. Nothing like trying to tune a motor at 35,000+ rpm.
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Old 11-24-2012 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jeromerc
http://www.clbmodify.com/thread-8557...html#pid107475

Monty, today playing with the truggy, I was having problems with the idle, I know changing pistons and sleeves is not normally something one should attempt. But the fit was much tighter and today when playing it was running great holding between 230 and 245 on the temp, I know it wasn't tuned in for a race, but it was stronger than the stock Losi 454 that came on the truggy. When I would drop the idle it would start then die, typical of an old engine needing a pinch, but I just ran with the higher idle and I was running 11 to 12 minutes on a tank of fuel within the temp range I like. How much better in your opinion is the X7FM than the Werks B5 or the Bonitto? Also when you are storing an engine for a while, how much after run oil do you put in and do you roll the engine over a bit making sure everything is coated or just put it in through the top and carb and call it good? I did notice that when I took both Orion engines apart and my stock Losi 350 there was a bit of orange on the inside, nothing really bad, but enough that I noticed.
btw Jerome that tune is pretty lean , its starving for fuel on bottom and top

something dont seem right with that engine
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Old 11-24-2012 | 06:09 PM
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Lean? I figured if it was lean then it would have gotten hot, it never was over 245 degrees.

Yeah I know the engine isn't "right" this is my Frankenstien engine. It is the 7 port 8 gallon old case, bearings and piston sleeve, then I put in the 2 gallon old cody king crank, piston and connecting rod along with head button and back plate.

I was also getting about 11 to 13 minutes on a tank and ran 2 tanks back to back without any problems or heat issues rather than the high idle. I do know it seemed a bit sluggish to me at times then at other times it would break loose, the clutch is a losi 4 shoe that is almost brand new, only about a half gallon on it.

If you think it is lean, maybe a half turn or so on each? I know when it first starts the idle is good and nothing is wrong, but after it gets warmed up the idle also goes up a bit, when we tune it from the high idle down it will start and run a second or two then die, so I said f@ck it it is just a play engine and we ran with it and I kept checking the temp and it wasn't getting hot. Not too worried about the engine as I am not planning on getting any more Orion engines so I figured it was worth a shot since last weekend I couldn't get either of those two engines to run for more than 4 or 5 minutes before a flame out or either of them getting over 245.

Thanks for the advice, I will try to richen them up a bit and see what I get, if it pops it pops though
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Old 11-25-2012 | 09:09 AM
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Some engines will not run hot when over lean Jerome

I've had some nova engines that would not run right off pushed over 190°

It definitely sounds as if the engine is running out of fuel, sounds as uf it's a lean boggy bottom also


Keep Workin on it bro, you'll get it
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Well Jerome I Am not the one who is gonna "toot the sh!t out if my own horn" like some , I much prefer to let the guys who run the engines all over the world tell you how they think the engines perform.

I will say ever since I put together the first X7 , I have not ran any other engine in my truck besides for testing purposes
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I think most know what is really going on
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Originally Posted by houston
Some engines will not run hot when over lean Jerome

I've had some nova engines that would not run right off pushed over 190°

It definitely sounds as if the engine is running out of fuel, sounds as uf it's a lean boggy bottom also


Keep Workin on it bro, you'll get it
Cool I learned something new today then! I have just never encountered that type of situation, usually when they are lean they are hot. I did think it wasn't running like it should but I said WTF it is just a spare parts engine. Will richen both sides up and get some video of the new track this weekend. Thanks Monty!
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Old 11-25-2012 | 11:08 PM
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Cool I learned something new today then! I have just never encountered that type of situation, usually when they are lean they are hot. I did think it wasn't running like it should but I said WTF it is just a spare parts engine. Will richen both sides up and get some video of the new track this weekend. Thanks Monty!
Keep me posted bro
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