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08-28-2014, 08:13 PM
i would have to agree with mr jenkins sr. mod is mod. always been mod right? open tire? but scale paint jobs to keep the spirit of the class. should be realistic looking.
but spec, maybe it should be limited on chassis. yeah yeah i ran an awesomatix. sure. i didnt pay full price either. and then i sold it for a more durable car that costs less. i know i ran one for the summer and i DO agree is has an advantage with such a free drivetrain. but, it was beaten with a tc 6.1 at fanatasy world by mr shook (nat champ) so that was a given. lol. but maybe limit chassis design? or cost? the car deas have sort of an unfair advantage to those that can afford one. maybe a belt drive only thing?
mine is gone due to the fragility of the car. i nicknamed it the breaksomatix.
Im not saying that it should be done but its an option to keep the newer guys in the class. i know a few guys got discouraged last winter due to guys running the A car and killing them on track. i know i was one of them. thats why i bought one. and now i dont have one. maybe put a $ cap on the class since we have to run novak motors and hpi d compound tires. maybe a chassis cap is in order too. but its up for discussion.
but spec, maybe it should be limited on chassis. yeah yeah i ran an awesomatix. sure. i didnt pay full price either. and then i sold it for a more durable car that costs less. i know i ran one for the summer and i DO agree is has an advantage with such a free drivetrain. but, it was beaten with a tc 6.1 at fanatasy world by mr shook (nat champ) so that was a given. lol. but maybe limit chassis design? or cost? the car deas have sort of an unfair advantage to those that can afford one. maybe a belt drive only thing?
mine is gone due to the fragility of the car. i nicknamed it the breaksomatix.
Im not saying that it should be done but its an option to keep the newer guys in the class. i know a few guys got discouraged last winter due to guys running the A car and killing them on track. i know i was one of them. thats why i bought one. and now i dont have one. maybe put a $ cap on the class since we have to run novak motors and hpi d compound tires. maybe a chassis cap is in order too. but its up for discussion.
A chassis monopoly is the only option for a true spec class. Which one to pick ? Answer that and you are more intelligent than I am, not that you aren't already.
Anyway, it's a bit late to suggest something like this 3 weeks before the season starts.
Yes , the Awesomatix is the best car in the land. Maybe someday that will change, until then.... Just get used to losing. The sellers remorse will only last a few months. Lol
08-28-2014, 08:22 PM
good one ritchie (hey i spelled it right this time) lol.
yeah i was just thinking out loud. and yeah a little sellers remorse sinking in. lol. but i really like my r10. and yeah to enforce it would be asinine and unproductive. and yeah theres so many different chassis out there and what to limit it to would also be unproductive. like i said i was just thinking out loud. lol.
I will do my best to try not to lose to the A car of jacob. yeah you just got called out bro. lol.
yeah i was just thinking out loud. and yeah a little sellers remorse sinking in. lol. but i really like my r10. and yeah to enforce it would be asinine and unproductive. and yeah theres so many different chassis out there and what to limit it to would also be unproductive. like i said i was just thinking out loud. lol.
I will do my best to try not to lose to the A car of jacob. yeah you just got called out bro. lol.
08-28-2014, 08:23 PM
08-28-2014, 08:25 PM
08-28-2014, 09:02 PM
Ugh. As small a detail as that may seem, that's a downer for me. The sweep bottles are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo <deep breath> ooooooooooooooooooooo much less messy.
Since we'll be using so much SXT, maybe we can work with the manufacturer to have it made available in a Sweep-style, well-sealed, no-dripping-from-the-lid-all-over-the-place bottle?
Poop, I guess that means no more Jack, either, huh? :/
-Mike
Since we'll be using so much SXT, maybe we can work with the manufacturer to have it made available in a Sweep-style, well-sealed, no-dripping-from-the-lid-all-over-the-place bottle?
Poop, I guess that means no more Jack, either, huh? :/
-Mike
A money cap isn't feasible. How to enforce it?
A chassis monopoly is the only option for a true spec class. Which one to pick ? Answer that and you are more intelligent than I am, not that you aren't already.
Anyway, it's a bit late to suggest something like this 3 weeks before the season starts.
Yes , the Awesomatix is the best car in the land. Maybe someday that will change, until then.... Just get used to losing. The sellers remorse will only last a few months. Lol
A chassis monopoly is the only option for a true spec class. Which one to pick ? Answer that and you are more intelligent than I am, not that you aren't already.
Anyway, it's a bit late to suggest something like this 3 weeks before the season starts.
Yes , the Awesomatix is the best car in the land. Maybe someday that will change, until then.... Just get used to losing. The sellers remorse will only last a few months. Lol
and i dont believe that the awesomatix is a unfair advantage. you still need to be able to set it up, drive clean, afford to repair it..
08-28-2014, 09:11 PM
Scale Spec paint jobs: To clarify, the Scale Spec paint is not a cost control thing. Brian maybe could have referred to "custom touring car paint jobs" without a dollar figure to get the same point across. We want to preserve the scale nature of the class, and that includes livery that we might see on 1:1 cars. If someone wants to dial up an $80 scale paint job, have at it. (To give a flavor for the extent of the discussion, I lobbied hard to ban the ZL1, as I think it's becoming the ubiquitous blob of the class. I was denied in my quest, so fans of that body can thank the Comp Committee 
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Spec tires: Our touring program has thrived with a spec tire since the first full season. We believe the touring classes (Stock and Mod) are stronger throughout the season with a spec tire. The QTS 32 is available track side and from several online vendors, it offers excellent wear characteristics, has a very sturdy wheel, is fairly priced wherever you choose to buy, and the Sweep supply has proven to be rock solid. It's a great choice. I don't think anyone can credibly argue that an open tire in the class would be good over the long haul of the season. There's no question that--for instance--first run Sorex 28's are heavenly. There's also no question they fall off, and fall off fast. No one wants to go down the path of one-running or two-running tires when the competition heats up. That's madness.
Cost control is a touchy subject. No one likes having their wallet looked into, or being told when and how much to spend. It's brought up from time to time, but the fact is, there's no serious discussion about introducing a chassis expense formula to Scale Spec. It simply doesn't pass muster. Within five seconds of reasoning it out, one is overwhelmed by exceptions and contradictions. It goes nowhere.
)Spec tires: Our touring program has thrived with a spec tire since the first full season. We believe the touring classes (Stock and Mod) are stronger throughout the season with a spec tire. The QTS 32 is available track side and from several online vendors, it offers excellent wear characteristics, has a very sturdy wheel, is fairly priced wherever you choose to buy, and the Sweep supply has proven to be rock solid. It's a great choice. I don't think anyone can credibly argue that an open tire in the class would be good over the long haul of the season. There's no question that--for instance--first run Sorex 28's are heavenly. There's also no question they fall off, and fall off fast. No one wants to go down the path of one-running or two-running tires when the competition heats up. That's madness.
Cost control is a touchy subject. No one likes having their wallet looked into, or being told when and how much to spend. It's brought up from time to time, but the fact is, there's no serious discussion about introducing a chassis expense formula to Scale Spec. It simply doesn't pass muster. Within five seconds of reasoning it out, one is overwhelmed by exceptions and contradictions. It goes nowhere.
08-28-2014, 09:17 PM
the awesomatix is not the best car in the land... just the most original... and the only one that is apparently infinitely adjustable...
and i dont believe that the awesomatix is a unfair advantage. you still need to be able to set it up, drive clean, afford to repair it..
and i dont believe that the awesomatix is a unfair advantage. you still need to be able to set it up, drive clean, afford to repair it..
And the money you save not having to rebuild shocks , no need for a variety of springs, and the best in class durable dual joint CV's that come standard more than pays off when repairs are needed.
But yeah, damnit, ya gotta drive it well, set it up right , and not hit stuff too. I need help in all those categories!
08-28-2014, 10:19 PM
WAIT!!!! NO WGT ON SATURDAYS!!!! Kody sold me his..... ah that damn Panda. Will be placed in box with sign "Break glass in case of big race".
LOL. His car will propel me to complete domination..... one could only hope. Still have to drive it..
Hi Jake!!
LOL. His car will propel me to complete domination..... one could only hope. Still have to drive it..
Hi Jake!!
08-28-2014, 10:24 PM
No F1 or WGT? No comeback for me.
08-28-2014, 11:09 PM
08-29-2014, 07:46 AM
Deleting my original post because Jake corrected his.
So, now this is just taking up space. What to say....what to say...hmmmm....oh I know:
So, now this is just taking up space. What to say....what to say...hmmmm....oh I know:
Last edited by bradshawkyle; 08-29-2014 at 08:51 AM.
08-29-2014, 09:15 AM
i would have to agree with mr jenkins sr. mod is mod. always been mod right? open tire? but scale paint jobs to keep the spirit of the class. should be realistic looking.
but spec, maybe it should be limited on chassis. yeah yeah i ran an awesomatix. sure. i didnt pay full price either. and then i sold it for a more durable car that costs less. i know i ran one for the summer and i DO agree is has an advantage with such a free drivetrain. but, it was beaten with a tc 6.1 at fanatasy world by mr shook (nat champ) so that was a given. lol. but maybe limit chassis design? or cost? the car deas have sort of an unfair advantage to those that can afford one. maybe a belt drive only thing?
mine is gone due to the fragility of the car. i nicknamed it the breaksomatix.
Im not saying that it should be done but its an option to keep the newer guys in the class. i know a few guys got discouraged last winter due to guys running the A car and killing them on track. i know i was one of them. thats why i bought one. and now i dont have one. maybe put a $ cap on the class since we have to run novak motors and hpi d compound tires. maybe a chassis cap is in order too. but its up for discussion.
but spec, maybe it should be limited on chassis. yeah yeah i ran an awesomatix. sure. i didnt pay full price either. and then i sold it for a more durable car that costs less. i know i ran one for the summer and i DO agree is has an advantage with such a free drivetrain. but, it was beaten with a tc 6.1 at fanatasy world by mr shook (nat champ) so that was a given. lol. but maybe limit chassis design? or cost? the car deas have sort of an unfair advantage to those that can afford one. maybe a belt drive only thing?
mine is gone due to the fragility of the car. i nicknamed it the breaksomatix.
Im not saying that it should be done but its an option to keep the newer guys in the class. i know a few guys got discouraged last winter due to guys running the A car and killing them on track. i know i was one of them. thats why i bought one. and now i dont have one. maybe put a $ cap on the class since we have to run novak motors and hpi d compound tires. maybe a chassis cap is in order too. but its up for discussion.
08-29-2014, 09:20 AM
no cause at FW mod was a true mod class, run what you brung, and one summer sizzler I did just that, slapped on a set of foam tires and... and well the complaints flew, I didn't care, rules allowed it, I ran it, ran a 3.5 novak on 5 cells, never finished a race all day, but I guarantee I had the most fun that day. and then the rules changed....
08-29-2014, 10:12 AM
08-29-2014, 10:17 AM
You're nothing but an editor!
Now I've wasted some space!
its going to be a good carpet season