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Old 05-09-2004, 12:48 PM   #9946
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Like I mention, I need to win a lottery ticket to be able to burn those guys with my Mazda 6 (as if I could).
Just thought: why don't you guys ask Julius for a lift - I'm sure he'll be heading off in your direction soon and I'm sure he wouldn't mind giving you all a lift
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Old 05-09-2004, 12:50 PM   #9947
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Ummm, have you done any mods on the flyweights?

Either that or your bottom end (LSN) is still on the rich side. Do a pinch test to check if your LSN is rich.
I've not done the mod - I adjusted the LSN using the pinch method. I got it to the point where the revs didn't increase anymore and then I richened it 1/4 of a turn Before I had it toooooooo rich and the car wouldn't even move
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I've not done the mod - I adjusted the LSN using the pinch method. I got it to the point where the revs didn't increase anymore and then I richened it 1/4 of a turn Before I had it toooooooo rich and the car wouldn't even move
Wow! This whole page just between you and InitialD! There has to be another rank for that no?
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I think there's some confusion here... We cut the edges of the flyweights NOT to make it lighter but so that the flyweights will fit in BETWEEN the post of the flywheel which the flyweights will NOT be mounted on the pins as per the manual.

Mounting the flyweights in BETWEEN the post makes the flyweights "heavier".
That makes sense actually because there's no more pivot action ... hence the whole flyweight moves outwards to "engage" the clutch rather than just the tip of it (when it pivots).



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I've tried the Mugen super hard spring on the Centax 3. Note that because the diameter on the complete spring is larger than Serpent's, the spring binds. So the shoe movement somewhat binds. Have you noticed this? How do you overcome this? Or do you not have this problem?
I just tried to do the same (seeing that it was a wet day and I couldn't go out driving) and noticed this too! This is a silver Mugen spring.



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I remember asking you why you thought and preferred SOFTER clutch springs on Centax clutches (on your MTX-3) to which you did not reply... Anyway, you now say that you like harder spring better?
I asked the same question too earlier ...

Maybe I missed the answer because Motorman tends not to use the "quotes" feature.
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Old 05-09-2004, 04:35 PM   #9950
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Default ordering a serpent 710

What online store sells the Serpent 710 for the best price and has it in stock?
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Old 05-09-2004, 05:42 PM   #9951
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What online store sells the Serpent 710 for the best price and has it in stock?
Where are you at Shiloh?
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Old 05-09-2004, 05:56 PM   #9952
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Mounting the flyweights in BETWEEN the post makes the flyweights "heavier".
and i guess in addition you can add the set screw in them ...?
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Old 05-09-2004, 06:16 PM   #9954
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In that case I can't help because I'm not sure who has them in stock as well as being the cheapest.

Try Winner's Circle, the guys here talk about them a lot and at $ 359 its comparable to most on-line shops.

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Default I LOVE MY S710

Today, I went to coral sprigs and i ran my serpent. for the first time I in my 2 months of trying to race this car I can say that I had it under control. I think my driving is getting much much better and I am actually applying the information i learn here regarding setup and driving and it works !!

Rather than making risky passes, i waited for the cars infornt of me to make mistakes, I just rode their tails, it was fun to see them get nervous.

Also, I installed the pin into the fron one way to make it a spool (more like hammer the pins into position). I found that the car had better steering in the infield in a pretty tight track and I liked the brakes althouht i didnt use them much !! ( I guess I am used to the one way, which acostumes the driver to be smooth). However i found that under alot of speed ie end of the straightway it make it hard to turn / takes away steering.

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in low speed tight infield the spool gave me more steering...

I ran the car with the setup from the book for the most part. I just moved the shock towers to hole #2 to make it the front end a little stiffer and also 45 deg on the front anti roll bar to plant the rear a little going into turns.

I hope you guys had as much fun as I did.. oh and BTW no broken parts !!

I love my serpent, I just need to work on the clutch... (I helped a friend setup his MTX3 and that clutch kicks butt..)
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Default MTX3 drive ration versusn S710

Does the mugen have more top end speed or did my friend's engine did the trick? he has the Sirio Evo 2 and I have the regular Sirio with the black head, but cars are stock geared, but he was able to pass me in the straghtway with no problem, his car was also on the rich side.
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Default Re: I LOVE MY S710

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Today, I went to coral sprigs and i ran my serpent. for the first time I in my 2 months of trying to race this car I can say that I had it under control. I think my driving is getting much much better and I am actually applying the information i learn here regarding setup and driving and it works !!

Rather than making risky passes, i waited for the cars infornt of me to make mistakes, I just rode their tails, it was fun to see them get nervous.

Also, I installed the pin into the fron one way to make it a spool (more like hammer the pins into position). I found that the car had better steering in the infield in a pretty tight track and I liked the brakes althouht i didnt use them much !! ( I guess I am used to the one way, which acostumes the driver to be smooth). However i found that under alot of speed ie end of the straightway it make it hard to turn / takes away steering.

in other words:

in low speed tight infield the spool gave me more steering...

I ran the car with the setup from the book for the most part. I just moved the shock towers to hole #2 to make it the front end a little stiffer and also 45 deg on the front anti roll bar to plant the rear a little going into turns.

I hope you guys had as much fun as I did.. oh and BTW no broken parts !!

I love my serpent, I just need to work on the clutch... (I helped a friend setup his MTX3 and that clutch kicks butt..)
Profox, same happened to me this weekend. I couldn't race yesterday (kids had all types of activities) but I practiced friday and today; I can say that for the first time I see some future in my RC career its very nice when you can feel the difference in handling as you do small corrections

About the clutch; a proper working clutch is paramount!! I would say it has mayor influence in the overall performance and handling of the car. I found out that with a sharp working clutch you turn and control the car much better, not to mention how the engine benefits!! a slipping clutch eats up power from the motor in big proportions.

I have the flyweights mod (cut to fit between the pins) For next practice I'm going to take a set with the set screw mod and see what up


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Default Re: MTX3 drive ration versusn S710

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Does the mugen have more top end speed or did my friend's engine did the trick? he has the Sirio Evo 2 and I have the regular Sirio with the black head, but cars are stock geared, but he was able to pass me in the straghtway with no problem, his car was also on the rich side.
I don't want to sound too fanatic but if your clutch was slipping only a little more than his, than there was the speed/power/whatever more of his engine
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Today, I went to coral sprigs and i ran my serpent. for the first time I in my 2 months of trying to race this car I can say that I had it under control. I think my driving is getting much much better and I am actually applying the information i learn here regarding setup and driving and it works !!

Rather than making risky passes, i waited for the cars infornt of me to make mistakes, I just rode their tails, it was fun to see them get nervous.

Also, I installed the pin into the fron one way to make it a spool (more like hammer the pins into position). I found that the car had better steering in the infield in a pretty tight track and I liked the brakes althouht i didnt use them much !! ( I guess I am used to the one way, which acostumes the driver to be smooth). However i found that under alot of speed ie end of the straightway it make it hard to turn / takes away steering.

in other words:

in low speed tight infield the spool gave me more steering...

I ran the car with the setup from the book for the most part. I just moved the shock towers to hole #2 to make it the front end a little stiffer and also 45 deg on the front anti roll bar to plant the rear a little going into turns.

I hope you guys had as much fun as I did.. oh and BTW no broken parts !!

I love my serpent, I just need to work on the clutch... (I helped a friend setup his MTX3 and that clutch kicks butt..)
Kudos Profoxcg!
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actually his clutch was not slipping at all..

but I am glad you had fun also !
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