R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-21-2004, 01:31 PM   #8581
Tech Addict
 
Blue Sky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 678
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to Blue Sky
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Eddie M
Ron,

I guess you and I are shopping at the same place I only bought the graphit bumper top place and some glown plugs
Yeah. Shipping cost is a little high but offset by the lower price. Let me know how the bumper top plate works out. I'll probably not put any hop-ups on the 710 and run it in stock form initially. Other thing I got from them is the serpent front ball diff set, which I'll use for smaller parking lot races where one-way will not work.

Ron
Blue Sky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 01:35 PM   #8582
Tech Addict
 
Blue Sky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 678
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to Blue Sky
Default

Mark,

I have your FAQ & the Serpent blackbook at my work bench right now. You guys are really helpful.

The rear end freed up a bit as I build along, but still not as free as the front. It's not THAT bad, just that I was looking for perfection.

Ron
Blue Sky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 01:40 PM   #8583
Tech Adept
 
Eddie M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 205
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Blue Sky
Quote:
Originally posted by Eddie M
I don't use thread lock on them and never have one back out on me yet. Just make sure you have tighten the screw and the ball end on the shock tower. [/QUOTE

Hey Eddie,

It's Ron! Good to see you here. Guess you got yourself a 710 too? I just got mine yesterday and within minutes I started building it.

Ron
Ya. I bought the 710 just after New Year but only have it all build a few days ago.
Eddie M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 01:49 PM   #8584
Tech Elite
 
markp27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Posts: 4,069
Send a message via ICQ to markp27
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue Sky
Mark,

I have your FAQ & the Serpent blackbook at my work bench right now. You guys are really helpful.
Good to hear

Quote:
The rear end freed up a bit as I build along, but still not as free as the front. It's not THAT bad, just that I was looking for perfection.

Ron
I can understand that, too. I think there was some mention of the suspension being stiff after building (somewhere in the FAQ) and it was suggested to loosen and tighten the screws in a certain order to ensure that everything is how it should be.

I would first run the car through a few tanks and then check to see if the rear is still stiff, as things tend to loosen up once run-in. If it is still a little stiff, then I'd be looking to loosening it up a bit.

Cheers, Mark.
markp27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 01:52 PM   #8585
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 787
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to kreidel
Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Ball Diff

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
The lure of the darkside perhaps?
InitialD,

If I am wanting to purchase a new kit is there any way of knowing I am getting the updated version of it?
kreidel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 02:20 PM   #8586
Tech Elite
 
markp27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Posts: 4,069
Send a message via ICQ to markp27
Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Ball Diff

Quote:
Originally posted by kreidel
InitialD,

If I am wanting to purchase a new kit is there any way of knowing I am getting the updated version of it?
The only way of finding this out is to either ask your LHS (if he knows the 710 well) or look inside the box. There is no other way to tell whether there is a newer kit inside the box.

Cheers, Mark.
markp27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 02:31 PM   #8587
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 787
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to kreidel
Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Ball Diff

Quote:
Originally posted by markp27
The only way of finding this out is to either ask your LHS (if he knows the 710 well) or look inside the box. There is no other way to tell whether there is a newer kit inside the box.

Cheers, Mark.
That blows....if I buy a kit I don't want the same one I had before. I guess I might just have to wait for a 710R just to be safe.
kreidel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 02:45 PM   #8588
Tech Elite
 
markp27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Posts: 4,069
Send a message via ICQ to markp27
Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Ball Diff

Quote:
Originally posted by kreidel
That blows....if I buy a kit I don't want the same one I had before. I guess I might just have to wait for a 710R just to be safe.
I don't see how else you'd be able to find out if you have an updated kit unless you ask - some dealers may have had 710 on their shelves for a long period, so it isn't that you can say that from a certain date all 710s from all dealers will contain the updated parts - you will still have to ask.
The freshly shipped 710s from the factory must now have the updated bumpers and rear shock towers.

The approach I took was to order spares for my 710 - I need them anyway and these spares are the newer versions. I'll drive with the old ones until the break and then replace them with the new ones.

Cheers, Mark.
markp27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 05:31 PM   #8589
Tech Fanatic
 
PSI Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fontana, CA
Posts: 881
Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Ball Diff

Quote:
Originally posted by kreidel
That blows....if I buy a kit I don't want the same one I had before. I guess I might just have to wait for a 710R just to be safe.

You could always email or call Serpent USA and ask them what the batch numbers are for the newer kits.
Then when you go to buy your 710, you could look at the back of the box and verify that it's a newer kit.
PSI Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 05:33 PM   #8590
Tech Fanatic
 
PSI Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fontana, CA
Posts: 881
Default

Has anyone tried to boil the older bumber parts to make them a little softer?
I know that trick used to work on nylon parts.
PSI Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 07:42 PM   #8591
Tech Master
 
Pyramid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ID
Posts: 1,945
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by GlennCauley
The 808220 dogbones are the same length as the stock S710 dogbones.
Have you measured one? can show pictures? Thanks
Pyramid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 07:53 PM   #8592
Tech Master
 
Pyramid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ID
Posts: 1,945
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by GlennCauley
Rear Roll-Center
Rear roll center affects on- and off-throttle situations in all cornering stages (entry, mid, exit)

Lowered rear roll-center
* Increases traction, reduces rear tire wear
Hi Glenn

I assume higher RC will means less rear tracktion. In curiosity, what will be the effect of higher RC that is generated by having rear lower arm on its highest/upper pin holes, and the the upper link, lets say on its mid point. With that condition, RC is higher than if the lower arm were on its lowest pin holes with the upper arm at the same location.

What I`m interested in, what is the benefit for having higher RC but with the lower arm mounted far more toward up from the bottom of chassis. I mean, when the lower arm is now mounted on its highest point, the weight of the rear (CG?) is somehow lower. Does it then generate more tracktion??

Thank you for your time.
Pyramid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 08:13 PM   #8593
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Profoxcg
Arent the 835 shafts longer...?
Nope. 1 mm shorter than stock.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 08:17 PM   #8594
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by KevinS
The way I get it, there are no regular dogbones for the Impact/835, only the Hudy ones.
Yup, I agree with you. There is only Hudy springsteel dogbones for Impact / 835.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2004, 08:18 PM   #8595
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default Re: rear roll center

Quote:
Originally posted by Profoxcg
both inner and outer inserts should have the same possition in order to change the roll center correctly ? - whatever changes i make to the inserts on the rear shock tower side, i make to the oposite end.
Yes.

When you change the lower insert, you need to reset the rear droop screws. When you change the upper insert, you may have to change the rear camber and rear trackwidth again. Just a tip.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Serpent 705 J_Longbrake Nitro On-Road 4252 02-23-2015 12:34 AM
WTB: NIB Serpent 710 aN4rK1 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 3 06-16-2006 09:23 PM
Serpent 835 JFCJ R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 3 02-20-2005 09:29 PM
Trade in Your Old Serpent 710 Parts for New Serpent 710 Parts fast_it710 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 0 09-17-2004 12:27 AM
Serpent Impulse w/MT-12 and Serpent Starter box - cheap Solara R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 03-07-2003 03:01 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:43 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net