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Old 04-21-2004, 11:06 PM   #8611
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I only used the aluminum part that comes with the upper graphite bumper top plate that goes to hold the grub screws for the front droop. I cut the stock plastic bumper top plate so that they are detached from the front bulkhead. The graphite part of the bumper top plate is too nice too use !
That is why I bought the black graphite top plate and not the SSG one.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:18 PM   #8612
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Well, yet again my bike training suffered at the expense of the 710 All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring

Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.

As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.

Cheers, Mark.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:25 PM   #8613
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I don't think there is any difference with regards to how the weight of the car is located with the location of the rear bottom arm. If there is, it's probably very insignificant.
The center of gravity will which I believe effecting tracktion on that point. As fas as Michael`s setup, I believe he have not played too much with the car since I remember him saying that he first saw the car on Thailand when he just about to use it... if that is correct, man.. serpent really cares about his team driver until preparing some packers... jokes only
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:32 PM   #8614
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here are some pics of some option parts for the 710

The diff is much smoother than the standard

That aluminum diff adjuster facing the steel diff joint directly when moving?
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:33 PM   #8615
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The center of gravity will which I believe effecting tracktion on that point. As fas as Michael`s setup, I believe he have not played too much with the car since I remember him saying that he first saw the car on Thailand when he just about to use it... if that is correct, man.. serpent really cares about his team driver until preparing some packers... jokes only
Yup, I asked him and he personally told me that that was all he had in the bag. The car had the red soft shock bladders with 35 wt oil with yellow springs and 40 shore front and rear Ellegi tires. So armed with only those things, he had to set the car to his liking.
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:35 PM   #8616
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Well, yet again my bike training suffered at the expense of the 710 All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring
Excuses ! Pictures please !

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Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.
Mine is pretty straight. As long as you get to clear the antenna tube and when at neutral the brakes do not bind, then it should be OK.

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As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.
Ahah, perhaps it's the titanium screws at work !
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:36 PM   #8617
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That is why I bought the black graphite top plate and not the SSG one.
Guess which one I bought ! Well, they only had that here at the LHS...
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:37 PM   #8618
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That aluminum diff adjuster facing the steel diff joint directly when moving?
That was what I was thinking too... Aluminum rubbing against metal to provide friction?
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:40 PM   #8619
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Hi BaxterC,

Roll-center is probably one of the most under-utilized adjustments on a car, but one of the most powerful. Roll-centers have an immediate effect on a carís handling, whereas anti-roll bars, shocks and springs require the car to roll before they produce an effect.

It is really great that Serpent realized this and made it very easy to adjust roll-center on the S710.

Here is some information about the effect of roll-center...

Front roll-center
Front roll center has most effect on on-throttle steering during mid-corner and corner exit.

Lowered front roll-center
* More on-throttle steering
* Car is less responsive
* Better on smooth, high grip tracks with long fast corners

Raised front roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)


Rear Roll-Center
Rear roll center affects on- and off-throttle situations in all cornering stages (entry, mid, exit)

Lowered rear roll-center
* More on-throttle grip
* Less grip under braking
* Use to avoid traction rolling at corner entry (increases rear grip)
* Use under low traction conditions
* Increases traction, reduces rear tire wear

Raised rear roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)

Glenn, Thank you so much, this make a lot of sense, I really apreciate the in-depth explanation.
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Excuses ! Pictures please !



Mine is pretty straight. As long as you get to clear the antenna tube and when at neutral the brakes do not bind, then it should be OK.



Ahah, perhaps it's the titanium screws at work !
I didn't want to post any pictures of my 710 with all the wires hanging out I know you would complain about this

Did you bend the linkage rods at all? I've seen some pics somewhere of straight linkage rods, but I can't remember who posted them.

Oh yes, the full 16 gramm weight saving is coming into its own now Although it may but upto 20 gramms now that I have bolted on the two servos (using only Ti screws of course)
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I didn't want to post any pictures of my 710 with all the wires hanging out I know you would complain about this
Excuses ! Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !

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Did you bend the linkage rods at all? I've seen some pics somewhere of straight linkage rods, but I can't remember who posted them.
The throttle yes. But the brake linkage not.

Take a look at Glenn's article at mytsn on how to set the linkages. Pretty good guide.

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Oh yes, the full 16 gramm weight saving is coming into its own now Although it may but upto 20 gramms now that I have bolted on the two servos (using only Ti screws of course)
No screws on the throttle brake servo does wonders for me !
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Old 04-21-2004, 11:51 PM   #8622
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Yeah. Shipping cost is a little high but offset by the lower price. Let me know how the bumper top plate works out. I'll probably not put any hop-ups on the 710 and run it in stock form initially. Other thing I got from them is the serpent front ball diff set, which I'll use for smaller parking lot races where one-way will not work.

Ron
I must agree, it is hight, I paid $93 for express, but I bought like $1000 dollars worth. I am saving more than $500 cos if I bought it here, it would have been MUCH more expensive.
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Excuses ! Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !
When you hear that, you know your ugly as hell


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The throttle yes. But the brake linkage not.

Take a look at Glenn's article at mytsn on how to set the linkages. Pretty good guide.
I'll follow Glenn's guide

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No screws on the throttle brake servo does wonders for me !
No screws! You're really running light!
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No screws! You're really running light!
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Old 04-22-2004, 12:19 AM   #8625
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Hey Voodoo... How is the NovaMax doing? Is it going ok, did you follow my suggestion?
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