Serpent 710
01-11-2004 | 01:27 PM
#2866
Tech Adept
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 229
From: Planet Earth
Re: Re: First Race Update!
Originally posted by Julius
The problem is that there is no uniform definition on offset. So eventhough different rims claim to be 0 offset they might well differ.
Where is the mark on the hubs
The problem is that there is no uniform definition on offset. So eventhough different rims claim to be 0 offset they might well differ.
Where is the mark on the hubs
01-11-2004 | 01:38 PM
#2867
Tech Master
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,063
From: Amsterdam Netherlands
Originally posted by NitroHead
I didn't think it was meant to be for permanent use... According to the supplement; 1. Assemble the gears and the clutch housing. Use the thin shim between the two gears. Use the supplied pinion gear tools to tighten the gears.
2. Dissassemble the parts again. Clean everything thoroughly and put it together again. Follow this procedure with every new gear you put on. "Once the gears have 'settled' it is not neccessary to do it anymore"
What have the rest of you guys done with the shim...Left it in, or took it out?
I didn't think it was meant to be for permanent use... According to the supplement; 1. Assemble the gears and the clutch housing. Use the thin shim between the two gears. Use the supplied pinion gear tools to tighten the gears.
2. Dissassemble the parts again. Clean everything thoroughly and put it together again. Follow this procedure with every new gear you put on. "Once the gears have 'settled' it is not neccessary to do it anymore"
What have the rest of you guys done with the shim...Left it in, or took it out?
01-11-2004 | 07:36 PM
#2869
Tech Regular
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 366
From: las vegas, nv
I'm sure those close to Serpent do not want to overstate the case for the 710. But this is a GREAT car.
I just finished 2 days driving it (while breaking in a new engine) on a slightly dusty track with fair traction. Temperature in the mid 60's. My durometer indicated that the kit tires were probably F/R 40/37. The car understeered alot. I didn't have any red springs, so I changed to F/R 40/40, and this helped a little. Then I changed the DRS to the "above" position and there was a noticible lessening of the push in the high speed sweepers, but it was also better in the infield. Then I shortened the position on the anti-roll bar about 2mm, and the car is now nearly dead neutral when it drifts at high speed, with just a little too much front push left. I quit at this point waiting for the red springs, which should be here tomorrow.
In a word, the car is, DRIVABLE!
I sold my two MTX3s at the track today.
01-11-2004 | 08:08 PM
#2870
Tech Master
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,737
From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Originally posted by clmbia45
I'm sure those close to Serpent do not want to overstate the case for the 710. But this is a GREAT car.
I just finished 2 days driving it (while breaking in a new engine) on a slightly dusty track with fair traction. Temperature in the mid 60's. My durometer indicated that the kit tires were probably F/R 40/37. The car understeered alot. I didn't have any red springs, so I changed to F/R 40/40, and this helped a little. Then I changed the DRS to the "above" position and there was a noticible lessening of the push in the high speed sweepers, but it was also better in the infield. Then I shortened the position on the anti-roll bar about 2mm, and the car is now nearly dead neutral when it drifts at high speed, with just a little too much front push left. I quit at this point waiting for the red springs, which should be here tomorrow.
In a word, the car is, DRIVABLE!
I sold my two MTX3s at the track today.
I'm sure those close to Serpent do not want to overstate the case for the 710. But this is a GREAT car.
I just finished 2 days driving it (while breaking in a new engine) on a slightly dusty track with fair traction. Temperature in the mid 60's. My durometer indicated that the kit tires were probably F/R 40/37. The car understeered alot. I didn't have any red springs, so I changed to F/R 40/40, and this helped a little. Then I changed the DRS to the "above" position and there was a noticible lessening of the push in the high speed sweepers, but it was also better in the infield. Then I shortened the position on the anti-roll bar about 2mm, and the car is now nearly dead neutral when it drifts at high speed, with just a little too much front push left. I quit at this point waiting for the red springs, which should be here tomorrow.
In a word, the car is, DRIVABLE!
I sold my two MTX3s at the track today.
01-11-2004 | 08:18 PM
#2871
Im selling my GS Racing Vision Pro if anyone wants
So that i can buy another 710 kit for spare...u know, buying the 2nd full kit is much cheaper that buying spare parts individually.
Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer
So that i can buy another 710 kit for spare...u know, buying the 2nd full kit is much cheaper that buying spare parts individually.Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer
01-11-2004 | 09:44 PM
#2872
Tech Elite
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,104
From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by jfc_tech
Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer
Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer
You'll find that PayPal will not allow you to sign up but a lot of the sellers accept money orders. Alternatively sign up with BidPay ... you give them your credit card number and they send the money order to where ever.
01-11-2004 | 10:36 PM
#2874
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,945
From: ID
Re: Pinion Gear Spacer
Originally posted by JABRONI
I've changed my gearing a few times and I can tell the small/thin spacer that was sent as a supplement to the kit is not going to last very long. after two gear changes it is starting to get chewed up.
Anyone know of a part # and where to get one??
I've changed my gearing a few times and I can tell the small/thin spacer that was sent as a supplement to the kit is not going to last very long. after two gear changes it is starting to get chewed up.
Anyone know of a part # and where to get one??
This shim will also be supplied with the 16T and 17T gears.
If you have free time, about that 2mm mod, please take a shoot from the side showing carb and the tank braket. No worries on the machinning.
01-11-2004 | 11:34 PM
#2876
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,945
From: ID
Originally posted by NitroHead
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
01-11-2004 | 11:59 PM
#2877
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
JFC, I got mine via eBay
You'll find that PayPal will not allow you to sign up but a lot of the sellers accept money orders. Alternatively sign up with BidPay ... you give them your credit card number and they send the money order to where ever.
JFC, I got mine via eBay
You'll find that PayPal will not allow you to sign up but a lot of the sellers accept money orders. Alternatively sign up with BidPay ... you give them your credit card number and they send the money order to where ever.
Maybe i just use my feel & touch things. The clutch nut measurement is actually a matter of engage early or later...so i think i manage without "digital measurement". I just use my "analog" caliper
Thanks Sow&Steady. Hopefully InitialD can shed me some light on this.
01-12-2004 | 12:01 AM
#2878
Tech Elite
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,104
From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by NitroHead
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
01-12-2004 | 12:06 AM
#2879
Tech Elite
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,104
From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by jfc_tech
...so i think i manage without "digital measurement". I just use my "analog" caliper
Thanks Sow&Steady. Hopefully InitialD can shed me some light on this.
...so i think i manage without "digital measurement". I just use my "analog" caliper
Thanks Sow&Steady. Hopefully InitialD can shed me some light on this.
Master D may be a little quiet, probably still in Bangkok. Or maybe resting at home and wondering what he can share with us from M. Salven's "Tech Talk" to cut off 1 second per lap!
01-12-2004 | 12:27 AM
#2880
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
An analog one will do but for an old boy like me, the focussing is a little weak. I need to see actual numbers to best judge whether its right or wrong.
Master D may be a little quiet, probably still in Bangkok. Or maybe resting at home and wondering what he can share with us from M. Salven's "Tech Talk" to cut off 1 second per lap!
An analog one will do but for an old boy like me, the focussing is a little weak. I need to see actual numbers to best judge whether its right or wrong.
Master D may be a little quiet, probably still in Bangkok. Or maybe resting at home and wondering what he can share with us from M. Salven's "Tech Talk" to cut off 1 second per lap!
Master D for sure got a lot of things he learnt there but whether he would share or not.....i think we have to fork out some green note...or bigger RM(MY) for him to open his mouth
I hope he didn't really make lots of laps...coz if manage 100 laps, meaning 100 secs to cut off