Serpent 710
#271
Originally posted by GoldFinger
D, that ratio facts is really dissapoint me...
But I hope the lower speed rate (means low rotating mass either) of 2 spd shaft do helps the car reachs edge of 1st gear in faster rate.
D, that ratio facts is really dissapoint me...
But I hope the lower speed rate (means low rotating mass either) of 2 spd shaft do helps the car reachs edge of 1st gear in faster rate.
Perhaps, by going with 1.875 internal ratio (and perhaps coupled with a lighter car maybe which gives better power to weight ratio??
), a 7.15 1st gear final drive ratio is enough to propel the car to match other car's seemingly higher final drive ratios on shorter tracks. Any comments, Rene / Julius?
#272
Originally posted by Que
Will the 705 gears work on the 710 pinion and spur?
Will the 705 gears work on the 710 pinion and spur?
Do 705 spurs and pinions physically fit on the 710, that I would have to leave to Rene or Julius to comment. But if it is indeed possible, you need to use 705 spurs and pinions exclusively on the 710 to get proper mesh.
#273
Originally posted by Que
I know the shocks and springs will work. Where will you all mount your personal transponders. It does look like there is some form of Reciever case or protector behind the laydown servo
I know the shocks and springs will work. Where will you all mount your personal transponders. It does look like there is some form of Reciever case or protector behind the laydown servo
As for shocks, they are the same as the 705. I would not know about springs though if they are sticking to the same white, yellow, red and blue convention...
#274
Originally posted by lawndoggie
I agree with fastharry completely!
They mentioned that they have been doing research on the 710 for 2 years, but then why did they release the 705 one year ago?
I agree with fastharry completely!
They mentioned that they have been doing research on the 710 for 2 years, but then why did they release the 705 one year ago?
Originally posted by Rene C.
A little but true story:
In winter 2002 we had the first prototype. It was not a bad car, but it was not the car we want to have. We tested a long time and changed many things. So we learned a lot. Then we decided to put all the knowledge we had together and started again. So we had a nice looking, from begin on good going car. We stayed testing and changing and so the result was the 710. It’s not a lie when we sad Performance through Evolution.
I never will say it’s the perfect car, but we keep trying.
Talking over it is one thing, but drive one and you will see.
A little but true story:
In winter 2002 we had the first prototype. It was not a bad car, but it was not the car we want to have. We tested a long time and changed many things. So we learned a lot. Then we decided to put all the knowledge we had together and started again. So we had a nice looking, from begin on good going car. We stayed testing and changing and so the result was the 710. It’s not a lie when we sad Performance through Evolution.
I never will say it’s the perfect car, but we keep trying.
Talking over it is one thing, but drive one and you will see.
Originally posted by lawndoggie
What I am saying is that serpent releases a B+ car when they're already researching a A- car! And they make people think that whatever car they release is A-. Thats crap!
What I am saying is that serpent releases a B+ car when they're already researching a A- car! And they make people think that whatever car they release is A-. Thats crap!
Originally posted by lawndoggie
The same should go to serpent, whom should encougages more manufactures to create custom parts for serpent car.
The same should go to serpent, whom should encougages more manufactures to create custom parts for serpent car.
Originally posted by lawndoggie
Last, I hope 710 comes with all hudy steelspring parts (doggie bones, steel axles) FC steering blocks, vent brakes and other hop-up parts that are already available for 705 as STANDARD!
These parts are OBVIOUSLY better, and so being a better car as serpent suggested, the goodies should come as standard.
Last, I hope 710 comes with all hudy steelspring parts (doggie bones, steel axles) FC steering blocks, vent brakes and other hop-up parts that are already available for 705 as STANDARD!
These parts are OBVIOUSLY better, and so being a better car as serpent suggested, the goodies should come as standard.
#276
Originally posted by InitialD
What can I say Mark...
You always have the nicest things to say...
Hey, don't forget to mention that it's the thread that has the best looking, highest quality pics !
What can I say Mark...
You always have the nicest things to say...
Hey, don't forget to mention that it's the thread that has the best looking, highest quality pics !
Aw gee
you're too kind
The old D1 is away for a refurbishment, so no new pics for a while
I'll repost my fav tomorrow, to set of the 710 friday picture frenzy
But apart from the pics
the technical input from certain people on the 705 forum has been tremendous. In other forums I visit, there is very little sharing of knowledge....seems some people want to keep it for themselves.Cheers, Mark.
#279
Originally posted by markp27
I'll repost my fav tomorrow, to set of the 710 friday picture frenzy
I'll repost my fav tomorrow, to set of the 710 friday picture frenzy
Incidently, we will get a release of the 710 tomorrow which is Friday. I guess we'll let the Serpent team drivers do the honours of the Friday pics tradition on the 710 thread...
#280
Originally posted by InitialD
Incidently, we will get a release of the 710 tomorrow which is Friday. I guess we'll let the Serpent team drivers do the honours of the Friday pics tradition on the 710 thread...
Incidently, we will get a release of the 710 tomorrow which is Friday. I guess we'll let the Serpent team drivers do the honours of the Friday pics tradition on the 710 thread...
#282
You guys are getting out of control with the bashing.... Last I knew Serpent and evey other company are for profit...they are like every othe company...some one said back on another page that MUGEN copies other companies Ideas...R&D is very expensive...I don't blame them...all of these companies are here to make money...Just when you got your integra GSR with all of the good stuff...Honda releases the RSX with a 200 HP VTEC and a 6 speed tranny...unlucky...thats life, get the new joint or stick with the old and work hard beat the new...
#283
The ART suspension has three main positions.
- Neutral, No change in toe.
- Up, The wheel gets less toe-in when the suspension compresses. This makes the rear steer more in corners.
- Down, opposite to up. It will make the car more stable under accelleration and braking (just using more static toe-in would make braking more difficult) but reduces the steering in fast corners.
Someone asked if we didn't believe in the system if you could use an option to run a "normal rear". If you'd thought first you'd realise that in every adjustment there is a "middle". If a company brings out a "hard" "medium" and "soft" spring you'd never comment "do they know what they are doing" Don't they trust the hard and soft ones to make an in between option available.
If that's the way you think, then you must think all tuning options on todays cars are a symbol of manufacturers not being sure of their design. Like "hey its a shit design, lets give them tuning options to sort it out!"
We think the ART suspension gives a tuning option that can help to refine the car to the track. Sometimes up works best, sometimes down, sometimes you'll find using the neutral gives the best feel of the car.
- Neutral, No change in toe.
- Up, The wheel gets less toe-in when the suspension compresses. This makes the rear steer more in corners.
- Down, opposite to up. It will make the car more stable under accelleration and braking (just using more static toe-in would make braking more difficult) but reduces the steering in fast corners.
Someone asked if we didn't believe in the system if you could use an option to run a "normal rear". If you'd thought first you'd realise that in every adjustment there is a "middle". If a company brings out a "hard" "medium" and "soft" spring you'd never comment "do they know what they are doing" Don't they trust the hard and soft ones to make an in between option available.
If that's the way you think, then you must think all tuning options on todays cars are a symbol of manufacturers not being sure of their design. Like "hey its a shit design, lets give them tuning options to sort it out!"
We think the ART suspension gives a tuning option that can help to refine the car to the track. Sometimes up works best, sometimes down, sometimes you'll find using the neutral gives the best feel of the car.
#284
Julius, how true:
"If that's the way you think, then you must think all tuning options on todays cars are a symbol of manufacturers not being sure of their design. Like "hey its a shit design, lets give them tuning options to sort it out!"
I find it hard to believe how some of these guys find ways to complain about things....
"If that's the way you think, then you must think all tuning options on todays cars are a symbol of manufacturers not being sure of their design. Like "hey its a shit design, lets give them tuning options to sort it out!"
I find it hard to believe how some of these guys find ways to complain about things....
#285
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 50
God willing !! Hey, look who's online... Is MichaelS who I think it is?
Well, I guess you are right....
It's me, Michael!! Although I don't exactly know what you think!!
Just checking out what you guys are talking about. So far so good, most of the stuff is already explained by Julius. Just one thing: there will be no two rear ends, just one with different possibilities to adjust.



