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Old 10-28-2004, 09:44 PM   #18181
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It seems like the car pushes a little up front and the rear seems a bit loose. I am running 37 shore tires all around at around 62mm.
Try setting the rear sway bar harder. Or if you want, you can get the optional harder rear sway set (

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I know the setup is something I will have to find on my own but I just want to know if I should be working with the DRS. Does using DRS effect other settings or is it a stand alone adjustment? Meaning, if I set the car to use the DRS will it require other adjustments to make it work right?
It's standalone. But note that weather the DRS arm is above or below would depend heavily on the rear roll center pivot inserts (see page 25 of the setup booklet).
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:47 PM   #18182
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Any new items, upgrades or etc. that I need to be aware about.
Hey Wap, welcome back.

You should be looking at the following stuff...

SER-802145 Servo lever front long S710+diffring
SER-802162 Middle shaft alu coated S710
SER-802212 Body-mount front long alu (3)
SER-802220 Bracket front up alu L+R orange
SER-802337 Anti-roll bar sets 2.5+3mm
SER-802362 Body-mount short rear aluminum (2)
SER-1388 Thrust-bearing 5X10 ceramic
SER-9607 Race brake-padset L+R
SER-802155 Bracket middle shaft alu
SER-802136 Bracket radioplate-support alu
SER-802552 Engine mount mono-block S710
SER-802241 Anti-roll bar levers + ecc. Alu
SER-802235 Spacer st-block-uprights (4)

You could also look at Thomas' post on what he added to his 710.

BTW, I would suggest that you check the rear diff outdrives and the rear drive cups. Check to see if there is any kind of wear. You need to inspect closely in order to see it. If they are worned out, change them. That's probably the cause of the problem with the rear spinning out to one side.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:49 PM   #18183
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I don't really know how to adjust the ball diff other than making sure it doesn't slip when you hit the gas.
Yes, make sure the rear ball diff does not slip. You could detect that the ball diff is incorrectly built when the car sways to one side when you throttle the car on a straight road.

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I am using the yellow springs, 35wt oil and 3 holes on the shocks. By damping I assume you mean shocks?
Yes. Try the red harder spring. Makes the car respond better especially if you have chicanes and fast switchbacks.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:51 PM   #18184
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What tool do you guys use to cut the 1mm off of the arm... razor knife, bridge port, etc...?
I used a sharp Xacto hobby knife. You need to get some spacers. The Serpent caster clips is perfect for this as it comes in 1 mm, 2 mm and 4 mm.

For more details, you could refer to Onkel Sow's article here.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:15 AM   #18185
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Yes. Just mount the spurs onto the 705 oneway 1st gear oneway hub and the 2nd gear aluminum hub.

In fact, you can take the whole 2 speed gearbox from the 710 and fit it on the 705. Just make sure you use the correct aluminum spacer at the back of the 2nd speed aluminum hub. When you do this, make sure you use the 2 tension springs in the clutch shoe from the 705 one and not the one that comes with the 710 because the 710 is much softer and will cause improper and earlier engagement in the 705.

You may need to do some dremelling in the engine mounting holes on the chassis of the 705 so that the engine mounts can go further slightly to the rear to mesh the spurs as the 710 spurs and pinions are slightly smaller in diameter.

You can also use the 710 purple engine mounts on the 705 chassis. They are the same except the 710 ones are 1 mm lower.
The only drawback is that the gear ratios of the 710 are different. So you'll have to use different pinion/spur combos.

Using 18/60 and 23/55 when using the 710 gears on the 705 wil give you the same rollout as 15/50 and 19/48 with the stock 705 gearbox and clutch.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:21 AM   #18186
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Of D's list I think these are the important ones.....

SER-802145 Servo lever front long S710+diffring
SER-802337 Anti-roll bar sets 2.5+3mm

Especially the servo lever and diff ring are imrovements to the car. The anti-roll bar increases your tunability.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:26 AM   #18187
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Of D's list I think these are the important ones.....

SER-802145 Servo lever front long S710+diffring
SER-802337 Anti-roll bar sets 2.5+3mm

Especially the servo lever and diff ring are imrovements to the car. The anti-roll bar increases your tunability.
Aren't those aluminum parts important as well to make the car heavier? (j/k)
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:28 AM   #18188
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The only drawback is that the gear ratios of the 710 are different. So you'll have to use different pinion/spur combos.
That's the idea. I think it's very good for smallish tracks.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:30 AM   #18189
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Of D's list I think these are the important ones.....

SER-802145 Servo lever front long S710+diffring
SER-802337 Anti-roll bar sets 2.5+3mm

Especially the servo lever and diff ring are imrovements to the car. The anti-roll bar increases your tunability.
I haven't got the 802145 set yet, but the Anti-roll bar kit is brilliant! My setup was always very good for my track, but after trying the new anti-roll bars out, the setup is exceptionally good!!!!

Cheers, Mark.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:33 AM   #18190
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Especially the servo lever and diff ring are imrovements to the car. The anti-roll bar increases your tunability.
I installed the new servo saver last night. You're right to say that you need to shorten the servo arm to servo saver linkage more so that the steering linkage is more centered.

Just popping the new servo saver in your existing car would make the neutral center of the steering about 30 points off to the right. Also the wheels will toe out more like -3 or -4 per wheel. I have not checked that.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:35 AM   #18191
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I haven't got the 802145 set yet, but the Anti-roll bar kit is brilliant!
What? !! Not yet? This is unexceptable.
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I installed the new servo saver last night.
What!! only last night, that is unacceptable!
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:43 AM   #18193
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What!! only last night, that is unacceptable!


So we don't differ in this instance.

Had it very LONG ago. I just wanted to test out all the things I wanted to do before swapping for the new servo saver in.
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It's Friday guys...where's em pix?

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It's Friday guys...where's em pix?

Patience.
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