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Old 12-18-2003, 12:19 PM   #1801
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Julius. Rene, Michael

Read sometime ago in this forum that you were going to do some tests with the 710 on rubbers with the guys of Serpent in UK.
Any news about those tests????
Can't make my purchase decision until I know more about the 710 on rubbers. We only run rubbers around here (sigh)
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Can someone tell me what this feature is?

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"...as well as rear wheel steering assistance during cornering."
does this mean this car truns with all 4 wheels like a skyline?

I am going to get one today or tomorrow, and I want to know a little more about the car.

Serpent.com has no info...
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Old 12-18-2003, 01:41 PM   #1803
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Can someone tell me what this feature is?



does this mean this car truns with all 4 wheels like a skyline?

I am going to get one today or tomorrow, and I want to know a little more about the car.

Serpent.com has no info...
No, it means you can adjust the rear suspension to develop more or less toe-in as the suspension compresses. How well does it work? I guess we'll all have to wait until we have tried the 710 on the track.
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so I guess I have it toe in a little more comming out of a turn which will help keep the rear glued... it should work pretty well.

.... gosh 4w turning would be cool though
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Old 12-18-2003, 01:54 PM   #1805
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Can someone tell me what this feature is?
the rear toe angle on the 710 will adjust itself whenever the state of the rear suspension is changed. for more detailed description, check previous posts.


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does this mean this car truns with all 4 wheels like a skyline?
not exactly, the rear wheels adjust it’s toe angle towards or away from each other, instead of towards the same direction. besides, the adjustment will occur during a straight-line acceleration or deceleration too. wonder why serpent called this feature dynamic rear “steering”, but at least it is better than “active”. going to get one to see exactly how it works and how well it works.
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going to get one to see exactly how it works and how well it works.
Really!!!!!
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Really!!!!!
really

so why don't you go get one and let me play with it ? punk !!!
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Julius. Rene, Michael

Read sometime ago in this forum that you were going to do some tests with the 710 on rubbers with the guys of Serpent in UK.
Any news about those tests????
Can't make my purchase decision until I know more about the 710 on rubbers. We only run rubbers around here (sigh)
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Lima may have good weather this time of year, but it's not real technical weather here. As we have very limeted experience with rubber tires and no competition, we'll have to wait for the UK drivers to start testing.....

Technical weather is the Serpent test team's excuse for going out and playing with cars when weather is good and the rest of Serpent is having to work indoors
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Can someone tell me what this feature is?

does this mean this car truns with all 4 wheels like a skyline?

I am going to get one today or tomorrow, and I want to know a little more about the car.

Serpent.com has no info...
The DRS suspension has three main positions.
- Neutral, No change in toe.
- Up, The wheel gets less toe-in when the suspension compresses. This makes the rear steer more in corners.
- Down, opposite to up. It will make the car more stable under accelleration and braking (just using more static toe-in would make braking more difficult) but reduces the steering in fast corners.
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The DRS suspension has three main positions.
- Neutral, No change in toe.
- Up, The wheel gets less toe-in when the suspension compresses. This makes the rear steer more in corners.
- Down, opposite to up. It will make the car more stable under accelleration and braking (just using more static toe-in would make braking more difficult) but reduces the steering in fast corners.
Julius,
How hard is it to change the DRS suspension positions by track-side (on the fly)??
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I am still thinking about getting one! Actually I might just wait for the MTX5
Or I might wait a little bit for the serpent 711.55, with the newly designed SFC stearing block (SUPER Fluid Cornering) and Centax 8, hopefully the kit comes with 3mm titanium shock pins! Hollow design 6/4 titanium doggie bones... and maybe magnesium carbonate polymer arms!!??
You might want to wait for the MTX4, but they won't even start on the MTX5 until Serpent comes out with the 800 to copy.
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HK is cheaper if you know the people... but I am still new to the hobby.... while everyone gets 20%off.. I get none!!
This is another reason I am not planning on getting another snake. There are 3-4 retailers that carry snakes here, not one of them are very nice to their customers.... thats my observation/experience. Of course many people will not agree with me...
In the end, its not just about having fun playing on the track, I want to enjoy the purchasing process too.... but lets just say that I hate buying from those dickheads...
Why don't you tell us how you really feel???????????
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Julius,
How hard is it to change the DRS suspension positions by track-side (on the fly)??
It is not the easiest trackside adjustment. It's a little tricky changing the position of the spacers.
Depending on how handy you get with it, it can be from a minute to an hour (damn dropped the shim again!!! )
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Atomic hobbies in Florida, 305-235-3232, just got there shipment. Mine should be here in California on Saturday
Thanks for the info. How much was the s&h charges ?

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Technical weather is the Serpent test team's excuse for going out and playing with cars when weather is good and the rest of Serpent is having to work indoors
Cool. What excuses do you guys give to your girlfriends and wifes when going out to play with cars? Same excuses?
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