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10-07-2004 | 05:45 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rear Roll centre
Originally posted by Pyramid
I believe if you dig deep enough on this threat, Lord D find the same thing
The highest rear tracktion was achieved by the following combination (sorry, I do not remember those UBO, LT thing) but here it is: lower arms on highest slots, upper arms on 9 o'clock (you would need to cut/shorten upper arms by 2mm to use 4deg camber). When you raised the whole rear arms assy UP, the rear weight is now more on tires rather than center of the car (since the lower arms is now much higher than the chassis). How does it perform? car will be very very nervous on sweeper as the front does not have enough traction to make the rear to follow (xtra stick to the ground) BUT I think the new servo saver will favor..
BTW, those r just my imagination explanation, I'm sure last time Lord D ask the same question to "official guys"
I believe if you dig deep enough on this threat, Lord D find the same thing The highest rear tracktion was achieved by the following combination (sorry, I do not remember those UBO, LT thing) but here it is: lower arms on highest slots, upper arms on 9 o'clock (you would need to cut/shorten upper arms by 2mm to use 4deg camber). When you raised the whole rear arms assy UP, the rear weight is now more on tires rather than center of the car (since the lower arms is now much higher than the chassis). How does it perform? car will be very very nervous on sweeper as the front does not have enough traction to make the rear to follow (xtra stick to the ground) BUT I think the new servo saver will favor..
BTW, those r just my imagination explanation, I'm sure last time Lord D ask the same question to "official guys"
So by nervous do you mean the back will push the front (Understeer)more, not that the rear end will be nervous, loosing traction
10-07-2004 | 06:04 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rear Roll centre
Originally posted by Picard
Ok
So by nervous do you mean the back will push the front (Understeer)more, not that the rear end will be nervous, loosing traction
Ok
So by nervous do you mean the back will push the front (Understeer)more, not that the rear end will be nervous, loosing traction
10-07-2004 | 06:44 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rear Roll centre
Originally posted by Pyramid
Yes, exactly (on throttle). It may not be noticable on small track, but definetely able to see the front part of the car trying to pulled in when turning but refused by the back side
Yes, exactly (on throttle). It may not be noticable on small track, but definetely able to see the front part of the car trying to pulled in when turning but refused by the back side
10-07-2004 | 08:36 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vidz
Originally posted by markp27
older fangs, too long of a gear and not optimally tuned due to weather conditions
older fangs, too long of a gear and not optimally tuned due to weather conditions
10-07-2004 | 08:38 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vidz
Originally posted by markp27
Then it is your shaky hands - if you go into the chicane at a deeper angle, it means you'd have to cut back more (i.e. turn more) going through the left-hand part - this would be slower.
You need to get your video camera on this one, Sow - disguise yourself as a tree and plant yourself at the mid point of the chicane (on the grass of course)
then you'll be able to watch/video how the big boys do it without anyone knowing
Then it is your shaky hands - if you go into the chicane at a deeper angle, it means you'd have to cut back more (i.e. turn more) going through the left-hand part - this would be slower.
You need to get your video camera on this one, Sow - disguise yourself as a tree and plant yourself at the mid point of the chicane (on the grass of course)
then you'll be able to watch/video how the big boys do it without anyone knowing
As for the "secret cam", I've done it ... like the video I did of your car going thru' the chicane ... doesn't help ... I need practise!
10-07-2004 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: R
Originally posted by markp27
On the subject of the metal fence - I hit the thing myself after getting the chicane wrong 
Useless glass car went crashing into it and didn't even sustain any damage 
Even Sow couldn't brake my rear shock tower!!!!!
On the subject of the metal fence - I hit the thing myself after getting the chicane wrong Useless glass car went crashing into it and didn't even sustain any damage Even Sow couldn't brake my rear shock tower!!!!!
10-07-2004 | 08:42 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Track
Originally posted by markp27
Just make sure you don't suffer from Deep Vain Thrombosis
Just make sure you don't suffer from Deep Vain Thrombosis
I thought they'd give me a voucher for a first class round the world ticket but no chance ...
10-07-2004 | 08:45 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vidz
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
No questions about my shaky hands and knees!
As for the "secret cam", I've done it ... like the video I did of your car going thru' the chicane ... doesn't help ... I need practise!
No questions about my shaky hands and knees!
As for the "secret cam", I've done it ... like the video I did of your car going thru' the chicane ... doesn't help ... I need practise!
I know what you mean, though. When I got the chicane right, it was when I wasn't really paying attention too much to getting in at the right angle - it was just natural to go on that line. When I thought about it, I would end up crashing through the chicane - only practice will help.
10-07-2004 | 08:46 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: R
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Yeah I know, what a useless glass car! I thought if I hit the rear of your car strategically, you'd be limping back into the pits with a broken shock tower, broken shocks, bent chassis, broken DRS, broken rear arms and broken rear block but hell, nothing happened?
Yeah I know, what a useless glass car! I thought if I hit the rear of your car strategically, you'd be limping back into the pits with a broken shock tower, broken shocks, bent chassis, broken DRS, broken rear arms and broken rear block but hell, nothing happened?
10-07-2004 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Track
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
No worries, they (Association of Seniors' World Traveller) gave me some special knee high socks to wear on an airplane.
I thought they'd give me a voucher for a first class round the world ticket but no chance ...
No worries, they (Association of Seniors' World Traveller) gave me some special knee high socks to wear on an airplane.
I thought they'd give me a voucher for a first class round the world ticket but no chance ...