I think i might have the answer on your question the Turn on brushless motors are generally used on a sensor based motor which I had a chance to open and explore the system, notice the .5 at the end of the turn? I think it is because each wind on the motor is separate. The winding would start from the front of the motor and end at the rear may be vise versa which gives it a .5 turn on a sensored motor. Not like the brush motor that most of the time it only have one long copper wire to make all the turn. In my observation someone can make a cheater motor just by swapping the windings and the stack just like brush motors but it's a little bit complicated. The only way to prove that the person has a cheater motor is by looking at the final fdr of the car/truck or by performing a dyno color coded rings can be removed and transfered as well.

Some of it's going to be the lack of spring tension too, with the flat spring holding the brush I can't imagine it has anywhere near the tension of a coil.

The armature is 30% longer than a 540 so it should have that much more power right?

I am going to get my hands on one of those RTR 17T motors and dyno it.

Yes spring tension play a big role on tha titan 12t 550 if you can somehow manage to increase the tension on that motor positive spring you will definitely see the difference even on a dyno run push the positive spring and you will hear the motor reving higher.

Sure did man. Doesnt look quite as shiny now. hahaha

I wanna see your results. That motor has zero bottom end, but seems to spin okay. I'm going to buy several for my SC10 and start jacking around with them and see what I can do.

yeah me to:nod:
just ordered a Hobbywing 13.5 motor/60amp ecu and hope its a little quicker than the 17T ... do we think it will be??

I am new to electric cars. The sc10 looks fun and I think I want to get one for the up coming winter. So far I have chosen to get a novak w/ esc 17.5 turn brushless motor. Any recomendations for how many teeth the pinion gear should have? Also what are some good batteries for the car? I'm really new so baby me through this. I really know nothing about electric cars. Or is there another motor that you guys would recomend? Price does play a big factor here! I would like to try and keep costs as low as possible. Is it even worth it to get the brushless? Or should I go brushed? I might even just try to find a used complete set-up seeing as that might be easier for me since this would be my first electric car. What are you guys running in your sc10's?
Also-can you run a brushless motor on a regular ni-cd or ni-mh? Or do you have to use a lipo? If I go with a lipo what is a good cheap charger that won't take all day to charge? Sorry for a bazillion questions! I'm a noob to this!

With the 17.5 novak mine is geared to 28t pinion you can go from 26-28 and 75t spur most brushless system can run nicad and nimh. If you are going for lipo and planning on racing I would say 5000mah with a minimum of 20c after a 5-6 minute race most lipo get fully recharged with in 30-45 minutes and you can recharge it over and over again on the same day with out loosing some of the power and it will stay consistent throughout the whole race heat. You just have to make sure that whatever system that you get that it has lipo cut-off capabilities eventhough you decided to run nicad or nimh that way when its time to upgrade you already have the feature.

I ran a new RTR SC10 last night. Only thing I did to it was went to a 19 tooth pinion, oil on the motor bushings, comm drops on the brushes, and changed one spacer on the front shocks to raise the front just a little. I did use my own radio in the truck.

On the track the truck was just as fast as any Slash or Strike. I didn't break in the motor at all I just ran it. Performance all night was right on parr with the other brand SCT's that are out right now. Very equal performance overall.

The Slash tires worked better at are local track than the SC10 and Strike. Thats ok you just have to drive and take your time but overall lap times where pretty much the same between all three brands. Had a great time running the truck.

I did use a Losi 19 tooth pinion. My truck was so quiet that you only heard the tires on the dirt but thats it. I never had an offroad car/truck run so quiet. Everyone commented on how much quieter than the other trucks on the track.

Overall a very nice truck. Nice to see three brand trucks that really are pretty different overall run the same on are track. Just depends on the driver and a little luck with traffic. Very cheap racing thats for sure.

Anyone running jconcepts goosebumps on their sc10? Running the stock foams or moldeds?
Thanks in advance.

I'm switching back and forth between the goosebumps and proline bowties in the m3 compound. I'm running AKA foams in both though.

It's funny you mentioned that, I used a losi 18t pinion for the first time in my SC10. And when driving all I can hear is a little buzz from my motor. It is so quiet, I thought something was wrong...:smile: Everyone else's SC10 sounds like a freight train compared to mine...:lol:

I'm running the GB on the rear, and I use either Bow Ties or Stock Tires on the front. It gives the truck a push, making it very stable and easy to drive. I'm also using the stock foam inserts that come with them. I thought about trying the 8th scale buggy inserts, but the regular ones work so well, I haven't bothered yet.

Got to race mine for the first time last night, things are a blast. Mine's a kit, but with RTR electronics so I can run it in the local "Stock" class. It did real well in a mixed CORR class (Stock and Mod together). Finished 5th in the A, only one "Stock" truck ahead of me. Good forward and side bite using siped stock tires, but I'd like less roll. Time to play with springs, camber links, and shock limiters I guess. I had 6 in front and 2 in the rear. Thinking of adding some in the rear, anyone tried 3 or 4? Don't want to add any more in front, probably move the camber link. I assume the SC10 uses the same antisquat shims as the B4/T4? Running a Robinson 18T pinion in mine, truck is very quiet.

My SC10 is very "Stealthy". I'm running an assortment of Losi and Robinson pinions. Makes it easy to sneak up on those Sherman tan.............I mean Slashs, man those things are noisy!:lol: