Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree4Likes

Viper RC -

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-26-2013 | 10:40 AM
  #8836  
SUPERLOOPER's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,238
From: Dalton,Ga
Default

Originally Posted by boborc
I do not think this is an esc problem but I could be wrong, it was my first weekend out with the vtx8. Ran great for practice and first 2 heats then....When I power up my car goes like half a runaway. The throttle keeps feathering and wheels are turned all the way left. I have rebound it several times & calibrated esc to radio.Sometime it works for a sequence or 2 then it does it again. If I where on frequencies you would swear someone was on my channel warming up a nitro. Is it a receiver or radio problem maybe. I have a M11x with standard fhss 3 reciever I use it in my other car with FHSS 2 and it seems all good. Once I had steering but no throttle the lights would sequence correct with trigger movement but no motor movement. Any Idea's.
Do you have a glitch buster or power cap installed? If not try that and let me know what happens. Nick is on vacation so he may or may not post with an answer. I do not work for them just a team driver trying to help.

Brian
SUPERLOOPER is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 11:35 AM
  #8837  
Tech Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 383
From: Denver, CO
Default

Any tips for soldering the Pro6 Capacitor on.

I was trying to solder it to the main terminals coming off the ESC (VTX10R-BE) and i'm not making a dent in that solder in 6s. Running my brand spanking new fancy soldering iron with a 5.2mm chisel tip at 650deg.

Guess I'm just a little paranoid because it seems like too much heat on those terminals will destroy the esc.
Barge is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 11:47 AM
  #8838  
DanielC.'s Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (59)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,755
From: FL
Default

Pre-tin your iron with good quality rosin core solder, and use a flux pen/paste to aid the heat transfer.
DanielC. is online now  
Old 08-26-2013 | 12:41 PM
  #8839  
Tech Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 383
From: Denver, CO
Default

Originally Posted by DanielC.
Pre-tin your iron with good quality rosin core solder, and use a flux pen/paste to aid the heat transfer.
Always pre-tin my iron and i'm using good flux core solder. Haven't had much need for additional flux but I guess now might be the time.
Barge is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 02:58 PM
  #8840  
boborc's Avatar
Tech Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 515
From: Planet Earth
Default

Originally Posted by SUPERLOOPER
Do you have a glitch buster or power cap installed? If not try that and let me know what happens. Nick is on vacation so he may or may not post with an answer. I do not work for them just a team driver trying to help.

Brian
I have a glitch buster installed, I'am leaning towards a Radio problem, going to try a different receiver tonight. Just so weird how the throttle was feathering like that. 10% to like 30% throttle no more no less. Maybe there is a Gremlin in my radio lol
boborc is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 03:31 PM
  #8841  
boborc's Avatar
Tech Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 515
From: Planet Earth
Default

Ok, I cycled it about 15 to 20 times with the old receiver, the first time the blue led flashed like it was in binding mode the throttle feathered a touch then it caught and turned solid blue. every time after that it worked. Its defiantly Radio. Don't know weather to trust the old receiver or put in a new one at a $100 a pop
boborc is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 07:22 PM
  #8842  
Genebaby's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 864
From: Australia
Default

My VTX8 is on it's way under RMA 082620132713.

As I mentioned in the form, I didn't use it for a couple of months after purchase while organising parts and then doing the build, but it seems the Vport wires are damaged from racing.

I would like it repaired, just let me know what I need to do when you get it, thanks!

In the meantime I'll use buggy 2 with the other VTX8 I purchased later on and race with that on the 8th. It's had about 15 mins of runtime in it but did go well when I used it for the last race on Sunday.
Genebaby is offline  
Old 08-26-2013 | 08:38 PM
  #8843  
bds81175's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,745
From: Litchfield, Minnesota
Default

What do folks think of 18/87 gearing on an SC10 on a small medium size medium/high bite track? I over motor-temped during the 7 minute main this last week (no boost whatsoever and 12K frequency). It over-temped with the same gearing on an indoor carpet track a few days before too. Motor cut off was at 220 during the carpet race and then I jacked it up to 240 for the outdoor race. It was hot out this weekend (96°). Wondering if the motor is starting to go bad.
bds81175 is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 01:41 AM
  #8844  
DustinH's Avatar
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 868
From: Joplin, MO
Default

That gearing is fine. I run my motor temp cutoff around 240. Make sure you don't have any binding in your transmission or driveline.
DustinH is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 04:29 AM
  #8845  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 191
Default

Originally Posted by Barge
Any tips for soldering the Pro6 Capacitor on.

I was trying to solder it to the main terminals coming off the ESC (VTX10R-BE) and i'm not making a dent in that solder in 6s. Running my brand spanking new fancy soldering iron with a 5.2mm chisel tip at 650deg.

Guess I'm just a little paranoid because it seems like too much heat on those terminals will destroy the esc.
I cant answer your question about soldering on the cap, but a couple of pages back I was having the same problems as you were with the factory soldering.
Too sum it up, the factory soldering is used with very high heat, professional grade equipment and probably soldered on before the terminals are even connected. Because of this the regular hobbyist needs to own a very high quality soldering iron, capable of pushing those watts in order to desolder the factory wire.

I was very worried about frying my new speed control with too much heat, so what I did was cut the wire as close to the terminal as possible and solder on top of it. This fixed all the issues I was having, I just needed to install additional heat shrink/wire protectant.
boostem is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 04:58 AM
  #8846  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by bds81175
What do folks think of 18/87 gearing on an SC10 on a small medium size medium/high bite track? I over motor-temped during the 7 minute main this last week (no boost whatsoever and 12K frequency). It over-temped with the same gearing on an indoor carpet track a few days before too. Motor cut off was at 220 during the carpet race and then I jacked it up to 240 for the outdoor race. It was hot out this weekend (96°). Wondering if the motor is starting to go bad.
What's the external temps?

Another option is to install the 12.8mm rotor. I think that they will add torque and allow you to run cooler. Here's the rotor options available for tuning.

http://www.shopviperrc.com/searchresults.asp?cat=1839
Bob Barry is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 05:03 AM
  #8847  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by boborc
Ok, I cycled it about 15 to 20 times with the old receiver, the first time the blue led flashed like it was in binding mode the throttle feathered a touch then it caught and turned solid blue. every time after that it worked. Its defiantly Radio. Don't know weather to trust the old receiver or put in a new one at a $100 a pop
check your radio settings for anything that says High Speed or HRSS something along those lines. If you have the option to disable it for your throttle channel (Ch2) do that. Set it to std.

I have nothing solid yet, but I'm testing a theory of mine that the newer generation of radios have a super high speed setting that messes with the ESC's. I believe this setting was intended to be used for dual servo setups like you would find in a nitro car. So go through your radio's manual and look for anything like that and then disable it or set ch2 to std speed.

Let me know if this helps.

Also what model transmitter and receivers are you working with?
Bob Barry is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 09:54 AM
  #8848  
boborc's Avatar
Tech Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 515
From: Planet Earth
Default

Originally Posted by Bob Barry
check your radio settings for anything that says High Speed or HRSS something along those lines. If you have the option to disable it for your throttle channel (Ch2) do that. Set it to std.

I have nothing solid yet, but I'm testing a theory of mine that the newer generation of radios have a super high speed setting that messes with the ESC's. I believe this setting was intended to be used for dual servo setups like you would find in a nitro car. So go through your radio's manual and look for anything like that and then disable it or set ch2 to std speed.

Let me know if this helps.

Also what model transmitter and receivers are you working with?
Im running a m11x with a 92744 receiver fhss 3
boborc is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 10:26 AM
  #8849  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by boborc
Im running a m11x with a 92744 receiver fhss 3
Ok I looked it up. Airtronics calls it SHR. You can set it for each channel independently. Turn SHR off for ch2 and test again. If it still is doing this, disable SHR for all channels and test.

Look on page 48 of the manual for instructions on how to do this.
http://www.competitionx.com/pdf/radi...11x-manual.pdf
Bob Barry is offline  
Old 08-27-2013 | 10:37 AM
  #8850  
stu541's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,398
From: Roseburg OR
Default motor

Originally Posted by bds81175
What do folks think of 18/87 gearing on an SC10 on a small medium size medium/high bite track? I over motor-temped during the 7 minute main this last week (no boost whatsoever and 12K frequency). It over-temped with the same gearing on an indoor carpet track a few days before too. Motor cut off was at 220 during the carpet race and then I jacked it up to 240 for the outdoor race. It was hot out this weekend (96°). Wondering if the motor is starting to go bad.
So no one asked what motor he is runnig here? did I miss something? with a 17.5 he could be up in the 25-28 pinion... 13.5 23-25 pinion and then true mods lower down to where he is stating... I agree his temp shouldn't be getting up to the limits either but knowing the size of motor would sure help us out...
stu541 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.