352LikesNOVAROSSI Engine thread....
08-20-2015 | 06:27 PM
#8146
08-20-2015 | 07:19 PM
#8147
That is what I said and it is exactly what I ment. I would rather run way rich than way lean.
I bring up the other comment I said as well...
Never herd of a motor blowing up from having too much lubrication. Have seen tons grenade from lack of lube.
I do agree that running either at anytime sucks... but rather be too rich than too lean. Whether its a tad or a ton
I bring up the other comment I said as well...
Never herd of a motor blowing up from having too much lubrication. Have seen tons grenade from lack of lube.
I do agree that running either at anytime sucks... but rather be too rich than too lean. Whether its a tad or a ton
killin me bud!! its not what you said...you said lean not way lean...2 different things. Your comparison was off thats all, again lean>way rich. You just can't assume someone on a forum knows what you mean you need to be more clear. Now comparing way lean and way rich of course way rich would be the better choice. Its okay to run a little bit lean the engines run better and at optimal performance when a little on the lean side (faint smoke trail)
08-20-2015 | 07:34 PM
#8148
2nd this for sure 086, 9886, 2058 or 2057. If you choose Nova run a 41001 and the top end will be amazing. If I had to choose it would be the 9886/41001 combo. The 2058 is a great choice too with better runtime but a few ticks less RPM than 9886.
08-20-2015 | 07:48 PM
#8149
Im getting into nitro racing, i use to have a nitro years ago and got sick of it and got into electric. Im an ep guy but am wanting to get back into nitro for a bit of variety and fun. I just got a used Xray xt9 truggy to compliment my Xray Xb8e. I have an Alpha club racer for the time being to get into the swing of things and was going to stay with Alpha, but have been told theyre a pig to keep tune. So im looking at getting a Nova. But i cant decide between the Nova Mito 7 and the Rex legend 7. My home track is a medium size 1/8 offroad outdoor track with only 1 straight, and its not a massive straight. Just looking for a bit of guidance and input into the engines and whats better suited. Budget isnt an issue. I see the Mito has an extra 1000rpm and ceramic bearings on the rex 7. Just curious what other differences they have.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Also, the Top Elite 5 is a good truggy engine and a steal for around $160 as it is basically a Nova p5 with more timing and a cnc piston. You can even get a tuned one from Neal at TNS for just over 220 or so. There's a couple guys on here that run them in truggy and I've yet to hear anything bad about them.
You could stick with the Alphas too. Never owned one but there's a few guys I race with that are fans of the Argus and Alpha .21s. The one thing I always hear is that they run the best around 270° or even hotter sometimes. They are very tight pinch engines so maybe the tuning issues you're hearing of are related to break in issues. Rex at RW mods sells the Argus versions and will lap the sleeves which really helps the break in process go quicker.
Probably not the answer you were looking for, but just passing along few things I've learned along the way and some of the advice I was also given when I was just getting into nitro. Hope this helps
08-20-2015 | 08:01 PM
#8150
The Alpha Club is a good engine. If I was going to compare it with other engines in its price range, the Nova P5 and Werks B2 would be right there. All about $180.
Keeping a tune has more to do with the owner and treatment of the engine that the manufacture. I have a Alpha Dragon that after the first gallon, I have moved the needle 1-2 hours just for altitude and air temp. It has 8 gallons on it. If having to move the needles 1 or 2 hours is a pig, then I hate to know what is worse
Depending on your nitro experience, and Im not trying to swing you one way or the other, but there are some engines that could be a better choice. If you are new or have little experience, you will ( and we have all done it) blow that engine up. Now, its a matter of if you want to spend $400 on a paper weight, or $200.
The Rex has a more aggressive crank timing which make it's power a little faster in the power band. Not a bad choice for a truck engine as they do carry a little more weight. The Mito is a little more smoother and the power slowly creeps up to its peak which is a little further in the RPM range but by no means is it a slow or a weak engine compared to the Rex. Its just different. If the track is open and flowing, the Mito may be better. If its tight with short straights and short run ups, the Rex may be better.
Good luck with your choice.
Keeping a tune has more to do with the owner and treatment of the engine that the manufacture. I have a Alpha Dragon that after the first gallon, I have moved the needle 1-2 hours just for altitude and air temp. It has 8 gallons on it. If having to move the needles 1 or 2 hours is a pig, then I hate to know what is worse
Depending on your nitro experience, and Im not trying to swing you one way or the other, but there are some engines that could be a better choice. If you are new or have little experience, you will ( and we have all done it) blow that engine up. Now, its a matter of if you want to spend $400 on a paper weight, or $200.
The Rex has a more aggressive crank timing which make it's power a little faster in the power band. Not a bad choice for a truck engine as they do carry a little more weight. The Mito is a little more smoother and the power slowly creeps up to its peak which is a little further in the RPM range but by no means is it a slow or a weak engine compared to the Rex. Its just different. If the track is open and flowing, the Mito may be better. If its tight with short straights and short run ups, the Rex may be better.
Good luck with your choice.
I liked the Alpha cr for its price, just to get my feet wet again and to use as a back up engine. Hmm i see, yea i was told by a couple of people it can be a bit of a pig to tune compared to the novas and OS engines is all.
08-20-2015 | 08:05 PM
#8151
Jerm made a few good points. If you're just getting back into nitro theres A LOT of good truggy engines out there for under $200 bucks. Werks b5 with a 2013 pipe would be a good choice. P5xlt is always a good truggy engine too, especially paired with an 053 or 9853 pipe.
Also, the Top Elite 5 is a good truggy engine and a steal for around $160 as it is basically a Nova p5 with more timing and a cnc piston. You can even get a tuned one from Neal at TNS for just over 220 or so. There's a couple guys on here that run them in truggy and I've yet to hear anything bad about them.
You could stick with the Alphas too. Never owned one but there's a few guys I race with that are fans of the Argus and Alpha .21s. The one thing I always hear is that they run the best around 270° or even hotter sometimes. They are very tight pinch engines so maybe the tuning issues you're hearing of are related to break in issues. Rex at RW mods sells the Argus versions and will lap the sleeves which really helps the break in process go quicker.
Probably not the answer you were looking for, but just passing along few things I've learned along the way and some of the advice I was also given when I was just getting into nitro. Hope this helps
Also, the Top Elite 5 is a good truggy engine and a steal for around $160 as it is basically a Nova p5 with more timing and a cnc piston. You can even get a tuned one from Neal at TNS for just over 220 or so. There's a couple guys on here that run them in truggy and I've yet to hear anything bad about them.
You could stick with the Alphas too. Never owned one but there's a few guys I race with that are fans of the Argus and Alpha .21s. The one thing I always hear is that they run the best around 270° or even hotter sometimes. They are very tight pinch engines so maybe the tuning issues you're hearing of are related to break in issues. Rex at RW mods sells the Argus versions and will lap the sleeves which really helps the break in process go quicker.
Probably not the answer you were looking for, but just passing along few things I've learned along the way and some of the advice I was also given when I was just getting into nitro. Hope this helps
Ahh makes sense, the guys at my track run either OS or Novas, so i was going to stick with a Nova just for the help i can get with tuning etc. Also as my lhs can get in either Alphas, OS or Novas.
Im wanting a good truggy engine, ill pick up on it pretty quickly so im quite happy to spend the money up front so im not spending anothet $500+ further down the track on a better engine. Which is why i picked up the alpha cr as a steal just to get my feet wet.
08-20-2015 | 10:41 PM
#8152
Tech Adept
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 235
From: Cyprus
I have a keep off 4 .21 and a BTTS now on my buggy's. I like the motors a lot. I think i know how to tune after 1,5 years 
I want to ask 2 things.
1. what would be a proper maintenance schedule and a safe routine check to do?
2. is it bad to use OS P3/P4 glow plug? (sometimes is the only available in my town). Is there anything i can do to make this plug "compatible" ?
I want to ask 2 things.1. what would be a proper maintenance schedule and a safe routine check to do?
2. is it bad to use OS P3/P4 glow plug? (sometimes is the only available in my town). Is there anything i can do to make this plug "compatible" ?
08-21-2015 | 01:25 AM
#8154
Tech Master
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,042
From: Malaysia, Sabah
I had been using taiwanese mills for 2 years n those mills are not weaker than nova or os. Regarding tune, it will hold d tune well n is a same long lsn carb so shouldn't be problem if u know how to tune.
Too bad, i started to use nova/rex now since it it affordable nowadays.
P3/p4 plug are ok but dont over tighten it, i would only recommend p4, p3 is not durable if u using minimum head shim/higher nitro/lean run. For break in, p3 all d y
Too bad, i started to use nova/rex now since it it affordable nowadays.
P3/p4 plug are ok but dont over tighten it, i would only recommend p4, p3 is not durable if u using minimum head shim/higher nitro/lean run. For break in, p3 all d y
08-21-2015 | 02:15 AM
#8155
Tech Champion
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 6,299
So where's the best price on this Elite 5? Cheap, powerful, and good value.. Sounds like my kind of engine.. (Elite 5 vs. RB Blast V15?.. I have the latter NIB just laying around..)
Any vids around of a stock Elite 5?
Any vids around of a stock Elite 5?
Last edited by Herrsavage; 08-21-2015 at 02:32 AM.
08-21-2015 | 03:11 AM
#8156
Tech Master
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,042
From: Malaysia, Sabah
08-21-2015 | 04:52 AM
#8157
08-21-2015 | 05:49 AM
#8158
If that's the case http://www.thenitroshop.com/top-elite-5/ might be your best bet. Shipping is like $40 still, but might still be the cheapest option.
08-21-2015 | 10:03 AM
#8159
Hi guys, I currently have a 25 Liters P5xlt and I'm already looking for a new engine for next year.
I wanted to know how much of a gap in power gain was there if I went and go for a mito 4 or 7 ?
Would there be a substantial difference or just a little bit ?
Thanks
I wanted to know how much of a gap in power gain was there if I went and go for a mito 4 or 7 ?
Would there be a substantial difference or just a little bit ?
Thanks
08-21-2015 | 04:14 PM
#8160
Tech Master
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,042
From: Malaysia, Sabah
The mito line is very new and different, but coming from p5, get the 7 port