352LikesNOVAROSSI Engine thread....
07-18-2012 | 04:38 AM
#3466
Thx for the inputs! 
My power lacks in the bottom. Actually, its already good enough but just that itching feeling for more since truggy could be pushed more. Top is good. My friend runs a bonito on a truggy as well. And he advised me on getting a 9886 pipe with it. Before I jump on it, I want to know what are the different choices I might have on here with advises from the experienced racers.
Fuel mileage here is important as well for me. I'm running 10+ mins on a truggy with a 30min finals. Any less would result in an additional pit-stop.
Running stock mugen clutch. Alu shoes with 1.0 springs.
My power lacks in the bottom. Actually, its already good enough but just that itching feeling for more since truggy could be pushed more. Top is good. My friend runs a bonito on a truggy as well. And he advised me on getting a 9886 pipe with it. Before I jump on it, I want to know what are the different choices I might have on here with advises from the experienced racers.
Fuel mileage here is important as well for me. I'm running 10+ mins on a truggy with a 30min finals. Any less would result in an additional pit-stop.
Running stock mugen clutch. Alu shoes with 1.0 springs.
07-18-2012 | 09:23 AM
#3468
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yes a 3 shoe is more aggressive but you will find that you can achieve better runtime with the 4 shoe setup. You tend to put the power down more efficiently and don't light up the tires so much. Is it that the engine does not produce the punch or are you not able to put the power down and hence you feel its the engine but its actually the tires/chassis?
If its putting the power down then stay with 3 shoe as it will be more aggressive.
If its putting the power down then stay with 3 shoe as it will be more aggressive.
Interesting cuz I always thought it was just the opposite using a 4 shoe. Im debating getting a Buku which is a 3 shoe or the m2c 4 shoe. Whats your thoughts on these 2 clutch set ups? I currently run the stock AE 3 shoe set up which is decent but the shoes dont last long enough for me.
07-18-2012 | 02:09 PM
#3469
a big thing to think about when talking shop about your clutch setups is realizing the weight of yours shoes vs the spring you run. for example:
Stock Team Associated clutch, 3 shoes, running 1.0mm springs. in a buggy
Ascendancy 4 shoe/Werks 4 shoe running 4 alum shoes and 4 .9 springs
They actually have a similar stall rpm because all 3 shoe setups have larger, heavier shoes over a 4 shoe setup, so for a 4 shoe setup, you need less spring tension to hold the shoes in when inertia is applied.
I personally run only 4 alum shoes and .9 springs on my Ascendancy and Werks clutch setups, and i also like the "Light" Werks flywheel(Ascendancy's standard flywheel is roughly the same weight).
Stock Team Associated clutch, 3 shoes, running 1.0mm springs. in a buggy
Ascendancy 4 shoe/Werks 4 shoe running 4 alum shoes and 4 .9 springs
They actually have a similar stall rpm because all 3 shoe setups have larger, heavier shoes over a 4 shoe setup, so for a 4 shoe setup, you need less spring tension to hold the shoes in when inertia is applied.
I personally run only 4 alum shoes and .9 springs on my Ascendancy and Werks clutch setups, and i also like the "Light" Werks flywheel(Ascendancy's standard flywheel is roughly the same weight).
07-18-2012 | 05:33 PM
#3472
Just ordered the Hudy bearing tool and another 17011 in case that's what's causing my flameout issue. We definitely have dusty track issues here in TN what with the 100F plus temps during June and July.
07-18-2012 | 05:58 PM
#3473
dont forget to use something to keep tool from pressing on the inner race for installation , you will ruin the bearing
07-18-2012 | 09:26 PM
#3477
Yes. All of those engines come with it anyways.
Definitely get the 2058 for more bottom. Really opens the engine up. The 2096/9901 actually seam to restrict it. Fuel mileage is pretty darn good with the 2058 as well.
If you really wanted to add some bottom pick up a 2013 pipe. Maybe 30 or so seconds less runtime than the 2058.
Definitely get the 2058 for more bottom. Really opens the engine up. The 2096/9901 actually seam to restrict it. Fuel mileage is pretty darn good with the 2058 as well.
If you really wanted to add some bottom pick up a 2013 pipe. Maybe 30 or so seconds less runtime than the 2058.
I suppose u mean the werks 2058? And 2013 I suppose u mean the orion?
Last edited by yoggyong; 07-18-2012 at 09:43 PM.
07-18-2012 | 09:28 PM
#3478
EDIT--- nevermind, I get it
Last edited by JEDI BASS; 07-19-2012 at 02:54 AM.
07-18-2012 | 09:33 PM
#3479
Good tip on here Monty! Shld try changing springs than pipe! The disparity in costs is way too much!
07-18-2012 | 09:41 PM
#3480
Good point to note!
Hey Ben, I'm pretty sure it's abt putting the power down. The truggy itself is much heavier than bugs. And I don't seem to experience much wheel spin unless I'm frantically trying to catch up on lost time and driving with a crazy mind. I run the mugen 3 shoe clutch on truggy and the werks heavy 4-shoe (from who u know ) on my buggy.
Another thing I just realised could be my restrictor! I'm running on a 6.5! I would try changing springs to 1.1 and restrictor to a 7 before investing in a new pipe!
yes a 3 shoe is more aggressive but you will find that you can achieve better runtime with the 4 shoe setup. You tend to put the power down more efficiently and don't light up the tires so much. Is it that the engine does not produce the punch or are you not able to put the power down and hence you feel its the engine but its actually the tires/chassis?
If its putting the power down then stay with 3 shoe as it will be more aggressive.
If its putting the power down then stay with 3 shoe as it will be more aggressive.
) on my buggy.Another thing I just realised could be my restrictor! I'm running on a 6.5! I would try changing springs to 1.1 and restrictor to a 7 before investing in a new pipe!