NOVAROSSI Engine thread....
#2701
A little education please!!!
What’s the story with ceramic bearings? Do they have better longevity, less friction; is it a must to have ceramic bearings in the front and rear? How do they compare to the steel bearings?
Thanks for the help!
What’s the story with ceramic bearings? Do they have better longevity, less friction; is it a must to have ceramic bearings in the front and rear? How do they compare to the steel bearings?
Thanks for the help!
#2702
1) slightly better fit, balls are more consistent/round. Thus smoother/more efficient and more corrosion resistant. However, less tolerant of dirt, but can run hotter and with slightly less oil.
2) About the same longevity except in extreme cases, slightly less friction.
3) Dirt is the enemy, I'm not a personal fan of running them in the front position long-term compared to steel. However, Nova has one of the best seals in the industry right now and generally you can get away with running a ceramic front, but keep it fresh.
#2704
. i see a purple head in my future.lol[/QUOTE]
And is that purple head attached to any thing/one. Hahahaha. A shaft maybe.
sorry mate, don't mean to hang shit on you, just couldn't help that one coming out..................
And is that purple head attached to any thing/one. Hahahaha. A shaft maybe.
sorry mate, don't mean to hang shit on you, just couldn't help that one coming out..................
#2705
Tech Adept
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 203
From: Munich, Germany
Is there anybody that still has some knowledge about older Novarossi engines?
A few das ago I was going through my secret stash of engines. What I found was an old BS21SB ( http://rcdocuments.com/Novarossi%20BS21SB.pdf ), which is a 5-port short stroke engine. It still has some metal pinch, the crankshaft is DLC treated (custom made, no mods) but I never really had the time to run it.
What could I expect from this engine? I know that the older Novarossi short stroke engines like the BX21 series (with the green heads) were supposed to have very good bottom end.
Which leads to my second question, I also found a Novarossi EFRA 2006 pipe (for onroad use). Now the German Mini Car Association (I'm German by the way..) has a neat passage in their rule book where a lot of drawings, especially older pipes, are shown:
http://www.dmc-online.com/NeueSeite/...012Anhang4.pdf
9886 at page 3, 2006 at page 6 .
It seems that the 2006 pipe has a very similar construction as the 9886 pipe does, except the 2006 seems to have three chambers. Do you think this might work in an offroad engine like the P5 or maybe the BS21SB? On the Novarossi homepage they state it's "the most progressive" pipe they have, what the heck does that mean?
Any help is much appreciated.
Andi
A few das ago I was going through my secret stash of engines. What I found was an old BS21SB ( http://rcdocuments.com/Novarossi%20BS21SB.pdf ), which is a 5-port short stroke engine. It still has some metal pinch, the crankshaft is DLC treated (custom made, no mods) but I never really had the time to run it.
What could I expect from this engine? I know that the older Novarossi short stroke engines like the BX21 series (with the green heads) were supposed to have very good bottom end.
Which leads to my second question, I also found a Novarossi EFRA 2006 pipe (for onroad use). Now the German Mini Car Association (I'm German by the way..) has a neat passage in their rule book where a lot of drawings, especially older pipes, are shown:
http://www.dmc-online.com/NeueSeite/...012Anhang4.pdf
9886 at page 3, 2006 at page 6 .
It seems that the 2006 pipe has a very similar construction as the 9886 pipe does, except the 2006 seems to have three chambers. Do you think this might work in an offroad engine like the P5 or maybe the BS21SB? On the Novarossi homepage they state it's "the most progressive" pipe they have, what the heck does that mean?
Any help is much appreciated.
Andi
#2706
Tech Fanatic
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 805
Might not be the best if you have short run up to a jump in offroad, but can be good if the track i slick. I like the 2015 which is a quite progressive pipe to.
Hope that helps.
#2708
Tech Regular
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 369
From: San Antonio TX
Guys, how do you clean the inside of the engine and components during a rebuild. I see some burned fuel and dirt. How to get it all off and get it back shiny?
Also there is some color change on the piston top. Is it advisable to polish or clean it?
Also there is some color change on the piston top. Is it advisable to polish or clean it?
#2709
Unless there is a huge amount of build up i would suggest leaving it alone

To answer your question , denatured alcohol and elbow grease
#2710
Tech Regular
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 369
From: San Antonio TX
Thanks Sir. Have heard a lot about you.
Denatured alcohol is hard to get by in India. Will liquid used for cleaning electronics circuit boards work? I guess its close to denatured alcohol. Will it work on bearings? Also heard guys using paint thinner or turpentine. Is it safe?
Denatured alcohol is hard to get by in India. Will liquid used for cleaning electronics circuit boards work? I guess its close to denatured alcohol. Will it work on bearings? Also heard guys using paint thinner or turpentine. Is it safe?
#2711
How to get even more runtime with a Novarossi engine in my XRAY buggy?
Beside a good tune, 5,5 mm venturi, 9901/41029 pipe set, rather cold plug, prober gearing, clutch setup and a needdle on the trigger...
, I thought of the diff's. You'll get better acceleration with thicker diff oil. Otherwise you make a lot of wheelspin and waste fuel, right? Of course you will not have a uncontrolable car, if that's what happens with a change in the diff setup.
Any of you guys tried or thought of that?
Beside a good tune, 5,5 mm venturi, 9901/41029 pipe set, rather cold plug, prober gearing, clutch setup and a needdle on the trigger...
, I thought of the diff's. You'll get better acceleration with thicker diff oil. Otherwise you make a lot of wheelspin and waste fuel, right? Of course you will not have a uncontrolable car, if that's what happens with a change in the diff setup.Any of you guys tried or thought of that?
#2712
Receive my Bonito's..will be breaking them in soon..
the bonito's have a total of 0.80 mm shims inside..do i need to add more for running at 30% nitro
which pipe and headers work the best on this engine..
whats the difference for the C6TGC and the C6TGH glow plugs?Can the C6tgh be used on these offroad engines?
the bonito's have a total of 0.80 mm shims inside..do i need to add more for running at 30% nitro
which pipe and headers work the best on this engine..
whats the difference for the C6TGC and the C6TGH glow plugs?Can the C6tgh be used on these offroad engines?
#2713
Thanks Sir. Have heard a lot about you.
Denatured alcohol is hard to get by in India. Will liquid used for cleaning electronics circuit boards work? I guess its close to denatured alcohol. Will it work on bearings? Also heard guys using paint thinner or turpentine. Is it safe?
Denatured alcohol is hard to get by in India. Will liquid used for cleaning electronics circuit boards work? I guess its close to denatured alcohol. Will it work on bearings? Also heard guys using paint thinner or turpentine. Is it safe?
Last edited by PERROTTO; 05-05-2012 at 11:00 AM. Reason: B carful
#2714
Receive my Bonito's..will be breaking them in soon..
the bonito's have a total of 0.80 mm shims inside..do i need to add more for running at 30% nitro
which pipe and headers work the best on this engine..
whats the difference for the C6TGC and the C6TGH glow plugs?Can the C6tgh be used on these offroad engines?
the bonito's have a total of 0.80 mm shims inside..do i need to add more for running at 30% nitro
which pipe and headers work the best on this engine..
whats the difference for the C6TGC and the C6TGH glow plugs?Can the C6tgh be used on these offroad engines?
h plugs work just fine , recommend C plugs but it'll be fine , i have ran them and they worked great
the two BEST feeling pipes without having any weird qwerky power delivery or anything of the such are 9901ss/41021 or 9853ss/41021-41005
hope this helps
#2715
if you have pretty good mechanical skills then git r dun with denatured alcohol and a lil elbow grease ,
remember that all that buildup seals up all the imperfections between block and sleeve and any other cavities that need filled



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