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Herrsavage 06-08-2012 09:18 AM

Just sold it!

Gonna' keep searching for a 2058, or maybe a 2013 if I find a cheap one. Am wondering how my 0801 would do on it.. Have two good engines right now, and not enough time for them as it is.. Will probably not get to breaking in the F11 til later in the summer..

I'm keeping my eye out for a cheap 2045 too..

RB just released the Blast version IV here btw.. Doesn't look all that spectacular, but it's way more expensive than the other ones.. Should've bought the V1 or V2...

Herrsavage 06-11-2012 04:45 AM

Do the new "V3" RB plugs correspond to the C5TGC or C6TGC Novarossi plugs?

Chris Peralta 06-11-2012 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 10845405)
Do the new "V3" RB plugs correspond to the C5TGC or C6TGC Novarossi plugs?


I do not know for sure yet as I don't have any of the newer plugs. When I talked to Reno about it he mentioned they help the engine idle better so it's very possible they are a hotter plug than the older style. If you look close at a C5TGC and a RB5 you will see the hole that all the coils are wound up in is a bigger hole on the TGC plug. Once the new stuff is avail here in the US I will get some and test them out.

Answer-RC 06-11-2012 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 10845405)
Do the new "V3" RB plugs correspond to the C5TGC or C6TGC Novarossi plugs?

Hey Herr!

The v3 is the version of the plug rather than heat range. They are available in no5, 6 and 7 which as always denotes the heat range.

As an aside, we have now had the Blast v5 limited edition engines in stock in the Uk which are pretty much a Ws7 bar the coated crank looking at the part numbers. Great value. As the Uk distrib for RB now il try and keep a closer eye on this thread from now.

Herrsavage 06-11-2012 01:40 PM

Hey there.. I was just asking cuz 1.) they're black like the NR plugs, and 2.) with the Fire 11 for ex., RMV Germany was recommending running an OS P3 if you run Tornado fuel. I.e. you need a hotter plug. Then here all these guys were recommending the NR C5TGC for the F11.. And then RB comes out with a new plug range that looks like the NR plugs people say work so well with the RB's.. Etc..

The new RB Fire is available for sale here now btw.. Tempted, but yeah, haven't even gotten any fuel through my first one yet ha ha...

Chris Peralta 06-11-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Answer-RC (Post 10847144)
Hey Herr!

The v3 is the version of the plug rather than heat range. They are available in no5, 6 and 7 which as always denotes the heat range.

As an aside, we have now had the Blast v5 limited edition engines in stock in the Uk which are pretty much a Ws7 bar the coated crank looking at the part numbers. Great value. As the Uk distrib for RB now il try and keep a closer eye on this thread from now.



He was asking because a C5TGC is a hotter plug than an RB#5 plug due to the Nova being a hot body plug. I think he was hoping the V3's were similar to the TGC plugs. So he was asking if they will be similar in that way. Only visual way I know of is the hole where the plug coils are.

rageworks 06-12-2012 06:11 AM

WOW ! There sure is a whole lot of posts about pipes and glowplugs.
Honestly, if you really want to know just what the differences are
in them and what is going to work for you. The first thing you have
to do is take the engine out of the box and actually fire it up and
run it youself. What works for some may not for others. I see some
mention about some people trying to run these engines on what
seems to be lower quality, bull sh-t, fuel. Why would anyoine take a
hi-quality engine and try to run it with cheaper low-grade fuel ?
Then come on hear admiting it and get into some big discussion
about what glowplugs and pipes will work with this rather unsavory
combo.
Sure, running hotter glowplugs gives an engine a wider tuning window
and makes it easier for the novice to find a tune and it may be what's
required for a engine to run properly on some kinds of bull sh-t fuel.
But hotter plugs have a weaker coil and burn up easier. All it takes is
one glowplug coil to drop into a cylinder to ruin a piston and sleeve.
So, running ultra hot glowplugs just to save a couple of bucks on the
fuel may cost you alot more money in the long run.
I'm not trying to say anyone is going about things the wrong way,
to each their own. But some times using your head for more than just
hat rack will help you out in the long run. ;)

Chris Peralta 06-13-2012 08:31 AM

There are a lot of reasons people try hotter plugs. Not just to make the tune easier. For me it comes down to altitude. When you race between 5,000 and 6,000 feet elevation in a climate that can be 55 degrees for morning qualifiers and 95 degrees for the mains, you have a WHOLE lot of work ahead of you for the day. Then factor in we can go from 10% humidity to 60-70% in a very short amount of time as a storm rolls in off the mountains you have to find what works "OK" (I say OK because you will never get it perfect here!!) for all possibilities and not what just happens to work best when conditions are perfect. If you have never tried racing this close to the mountains at high elevations with rapidly changing weather conditions you have no idea how difficult tuning one of these engines can actually be. Many people think just running more nito and leaner settings is all it takes. Those are people who have not personally experienced this!!!!

The pipes are an even bigger can of worms up here!! Oxygen is quite thin and if your trying to run a pipe that is too restrictive your going to struggle. When there is a lack of oxygen you need to do everything possible to enable your engine to breathe in and breathe out. Many people talk about running a 6.5 restrictor on engines. Try the 6.5 here and you will pull out your hair and claim someone sold you a bad engine!!!

hambone 06-13-2012 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Peralta (Post 10854904)
There are a lot of reasons people try hotter plugs. Not just to make the tune easier. For me it comes down to altitude. When you race between 5,000 and 6,000 feet elevation in a climate that can be 55 degrees for morning qualifiers and 95 degrees for the mains, you have a WHOLE lot of work ahead of you for the day. Then factor in we can go from 10% humidity to 60-70% in a very short amount of time as a storm rolls in off the mountains you have to find what works "OK" (I say OK because you will never get it perfect here!!) for all possibilities and not what just happens to work best when conditions are perfect. If you have never tried racing this close to the mountains at high elevations with rapidly changing weather conditions you have no idea how difficult tuning one of these engines can actually be. Many people think just running more nito and leaner settings is all it takes. Those are people who have not personally experienced this!!!!

The pipes are an even bigger can of worms up here!! Oxygen is quite thin and if your trying to run a pipe that is too restrictive your going to struggle. When there is a lack of oxygen you need to do everything possible to enable your engine to breathe in and breathe out. Many people talk about running a 6.5 restrictor on engines. Try the 6.5 here and you will pull out your hair and claim someone sold you a bad engine!!!

Hello 50% nitro!

Chris Peralta 06-13-2012 09:29 AM

Been there done the 50% nitro thing. When the Nationals were here a few years ago most of the teams were shipping 50% here for the guys to use. Sure it helps make up for the loss in power you feel but it still does not make the tuning any easier when you factor in everything, and how fast weather can change here. All the 50% does is give you some of the power back your used to at sea level but it also is a lot rougher on your engine than a 30% blend of fuel is. In the long run I have gone back to 30% because my engines make plenty of power for me on the 30%, plus it's cheaper and the engines last longer. 5 gallons of 50% nitro thu an engine can take it's toll lemme tell ya.

aznitronut 06-13-2012 12:35 PM

Good read Chris, glad we don't have to deal with those issues here, in "HOT AS HELL" PHOENIX.

Herrsavage 06-14-2012 09:10 AM

Chris, how does/should the new RB Fire compare to the Fire 11? It says 7+2 with MES exhaust.. And I guess the idle screw is more conveniently located?..

Got a guy making a nice offer for the kit with 2045.. Even though my two current engines are going great(including a modded Picco just barely broken in..) and I barely have enough time for them as it is.. Still.. Sucker for a deal.. :)

SUPERFORMIAN 07-06-2012 01:23 PM

I find it interesting how RB Concepts is showing of their BX and CX engines, but they're not for sale! What's the point of showing off an engine if no one can purchase it? Are they going to sell it? That's what it looks like from their website. I'd like to purchase a BXR engine, but there's no website I can purchase it from! Not even Fusion X. Then again, Fusion X doesn't have any RB Engines on their website even though they're the American dealer for the engines. I think it's time RB finds a new American dealer.

Diff Balls 07-06-2012 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by SUPERFORMIAN (Post 10944095)
I find it interesting how RB Concepts is showing of their BX and CX engines, but they're not for sale! What's the point of showing off an engine if no one can purchase it? Are they going to sell it? That's what it looks like from their website. I'd like to purchase a BXR engine, but there's no website I can purchase it from! Not even Fusion X. Then again, Fusion X doesn't have any RB Engines on their website even though they're the American dealer for the engines. I think it's time RB finds a new American dealer.

I inquired about becoming a distributer and never heard anything back from them.....

I did see Absolutehobbyz has some available, or atleast did a week ago or so

Chris Peralta 07-09-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by SUPERFORMIAN (Post 10944095)
I find it interesting how RB Concepts is showing of their BX and CX engines, but they're not for sale! What's the point of showing off an engine if no one can purchase it? Are they going to sell it? That's what it looks like from their website. I'd like to purchase a BXR engine, but there's no website I can purchase it from! Not even Fusion X. Then again, Fusion X doesn't have any RB Engines on their website even though they're the American dealer for the engines. I think it's time RB finds a new American dealer.


The engines should be available at A-Main soon. Many people around the world already have them and have been running them. Here in the US we don't have them yet, Jim just took over RB USA and has to get everything setup and squared away. Finding a new US dealer will not make them all of a sudden available. If you have been running RB's for a number of years you will remember that we always end up getting the new engines last here in the USA. Maybe it has to do with how many people think the French feel about us Americans :lol:

Like posted above absolute hobbies seems to have the BX and the BXR in stock right now. so they are available.

I know I am excited to get my hands on a BXR!!!


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