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Old 04-01-2004, 09:43 AM   #7411
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thank you only 8,000 more to go to catch you
opps i m sorry 8.400 or so!!
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:32 AM   #7412
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opps i m sorry 8.400 or so!!
Good luck, cause i don't think that you can ever catch D
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i know he has more time than me
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:03 PM   #7414
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I am looking for a good starting droop values for my 710.

Here's the scoop:
I have set up the car according to the basic setup (from the manual). I am using 62mm dia tires. I have set the front downstops to 0 and the rear downstops to +7. Ride height is 6mm front/rear.

With these settings, there is a MILE of droop in the car. By droop I mean the amount that the chassis can be lifted up before the wheels leave the ground.

Is this normal?

If not, I will have to adjust my downstop values to higher settings... What amount of droop (f/r) should I be going for?
We run on a non-permanent, paved track (fairly smooth).

Any help is appreciated.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:10 PM   #7415
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Jabroni, that is sure some nice work!


Curious about one thing... with the expenditure on alloy parts and SSG, why did you keep the stock plastic radiotray support?
I would think that would be the FIRST thing you would replace with an alloy part to increase torsional stiffness.
I have been holding off on ordering one of these, although I agree with Glenn, until Serpent re-designs the current one to correct the height difference.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:27 PM   #7416
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I am looking for a good starting droop values for my 710.

Here's the scoop:
I have set up the car according to the basic setup (from the manual). I am using 62mm dia tires. I have set the front downstops to 0 and the rear downstops to +7. Ride height is 6mm front/rear.

With these settings, there is a MILE of droop in the car. By droop I mean the amount that the chassis can be lifted up before the wheels leave the ground.

Is this normal?

If not, I will have to adjust my downstop values to higher settings... What amount of droop (f/r) should I be going for?
We run on a non-permanent, paved track (fairly smooth).

Any help is appreciated.
Art Carbonell reported the same setup at his test of the car at Fort Myers, and he turned a 13.8 second lap. So I've not changed the droop as the car handles better than anything I've driven before.
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Art Carbonell reported the same setup at his test of the car at Fort Myers, and he turned a 13.8 second lap. So I've not changed the droop as the car handles better than anything I've driven before.
i have the same set up and my car handles!!!!!!!
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Old 04-01-2004, 05:35 PM   #7418
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Err ... for the OS of the chosen ones it projects the tracks and cars in 3d space!
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Is the droop setup mentioned in the 710faq? i.e. droop changes according to tire size.
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Is the droop setup mentioned in the 710faq? i.e. droop changes according to tire size.
Yup.
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With these settings, there is a MILE of droop in the car. By droop I mean the amount that the chassis can be lifted up before the wheels leave the ground.
Yup. I noticed that too. The numbers are high but you can notice that the arms have "more droop" on the 710 even at higher gauge numbers. I believe Julius mentioned somewhere like +6 to +9 before for the rear for any tire size depending on your track. For the front, I think I think it should be around -1 to +2.
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I'm going to setup my car tonight to the defualt specs. I'm going to run the tires at full diameter to get max life while I'm starting out and getting use to the car. So I'll set the ride height to 6mm front and rear. As the tires start to wear down do I just raise the rid height back to 6mm without any other changes? Basically what I'm asking is once the tires start wearing down what do I need to adjust to compensate for the tire size difference? I'll check back in a bit, I'll probably have more questions.
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I'm going to setup my car tonight to the defualt specs. I'm going to run the tires at full diameter to get max life while I'm starting out and getting use to the car. So I'll set the ride height to 6mm front and rear. As the tires start to wear down do I just raise the rid height back to 6mm without any other changes? Basically what I'm asking is once the tires start wearing down what do I need to adjust to compensate for the tire size difference? I'll check back in a bit, I'll probably have more questions.
If you want to set the droop to the kit setup with full size tires, you need to compensate the droop.

Say if the new kit tires are 66 mm tires and you set the ride height to 6 mm, set the wheel camber first. After that, set the droop to decrease it from 0 to +2 in front and from +7 to +9 in the rear. Higher numbers on the droop gauge means decreasing the droop or chassis uptravel. How I get the numbers? [(66-62)/2 = 2].

Now when the tires wear down to say 60 mm, your ride height will come to 3 mm !! [(66-60)/2 = 3, (6-3) = 3]. Reset your ride height to 6 mm by turning down the shock collars and then your droop should be compensated to go from +2 to -1 in front and +9 to +6 in the rear. Check your camber when you reset your ride height. There may be small changes to the wheel camber. You could also see the example in Mark's FAQ. Hope that was helpful.
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how often do I have to make these changes?? between heats??

what happens if i don't? will my car handle poorly?
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how often do I have to make these changes?? between heats??

what happens if i don't? will my car handle poorly?
I am not the master with the very irritated looking ring, but no you do not HAVE to make these changes every heat. You can of course. Just dont let them get too far away from where they should be and you will be fine.
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