Serpent 710
#2941
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 76
Andrew It all depends on when the car was pushing.I would first try changing springs to adjust weight transfer. If the car is pushing going into corner you need more weight transfer to the front so therefore a softer spring in the front. If the car is pushing out of corner it means there is too much weight transfer to the back tyres so try stiffening the rear springs. By changing springs like this you will notice significant changes. Once you find a spring set up which is close you can then fine tune it with roll bars camber caster etc. I find that at bayside you don't need roll bars unless you are running a very soft spring,there just isn't enough grip on the concrete to need roll bars. Another thing to consider is droop and ride height which you can use to controlsteering push. I had the same problem that you had but after much trial and error i now have a setup which is pretty good. The order i would try would be Springs Droop then ride height.
Just my two cents worth
barry
Just my two cents worth
barry
#2942
Originally posted by S710_Nut
Talking about setups, On the weekend the car was pushing a fair bit si i went down a hold in the front shock piston, the car was better under brakes and easier to drive, but my best lap time was slower then before i made the change. I do not know if the weather had anything to do with it as the later the day went on the hotter it got? I was thinking i should change the shock pistons back and try more front camber? Suggestions?
SN
Talking about setups, On the weekend the car was pushing a fair bit si i went down a hold in the front shock piston, the car was better under brakes and easier to drive, but my best lap time was slower then before i made the change. I do not know if the weather had anything to do with it as the later the day went on the hotter it got? I was thinking i should change the shock pistons back and try more front camber? Suggestions?
SN
For me, a quick change at the track side would be to play with the caster, ride height, roll bars, downstops and the easiest of all is tires.
#2943
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2216
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2213
Notice that he uses the newer Status 2.1 bodyshell.
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2213
Notice that he uses the newer Status 2.1 bodyshell.
#2945
Originally posted by InitialD
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2216
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2213
Notice that he uses the newer Status 2.1 bodyshell.
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2216
http://www.mytsn.com/setups/setup.asp?sid=2213
Notice that he uses the newer Status 2.1 bodyshell.
Take a look at that lap time!
#2951
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Nice new Serpent "corporate" colors!
Nice new Serpent "corporate" colors!
#2952
Originally posted by chachi
Why does Serpent include yellow springs in the kits (705/710) when most people replace them with reds?
Why does Serpent include yellow springs in the kits (705/710) when most people replace them with reds?
Still looking at the 710, it is much lighter than the 705. With the 705, my personal feeling was that yellow springs were too soft. Putting red spring on the 705, you need to mount the shocks more horizontal. This makes the shocks softer and more progressive. Whereas on the 710, the shocks are mounted more vertical. In some ways, the yellow springs will be "harder" on the 710 than it is on the 705. My 2 cents.
#2953
agree 710 should work with yellow, i ran yellow on the 705 on vht high bite grooved tracks like worlds at cinn, and the FT. so it would not surprise me to see lots of yellow .. red will take some roll out of the car may come down to how smooth of a driver you are..
#2954
Originally posted by ammdrew
agree 710 should work with yellow, i ran yellow on the 705 on vht high bite grooved tracks like worlds at cinn, and the FT. so it would not surprise me to see lots of yellow .. red will take some roll out of the car may come down to how smooth of a driver you are..
agree 710 should work with yellow, i ran yellow on the 705 on vht high bite grooved tracks like worlds at cinn, and the FT. so it would not surprise me to see lots of yellow .. red will take some roll out of the car may come down to how smooth of a driver you are..
With the 705 I constantly used the reds because I could easily find grip using foams but needed faster response from the car most of the time not to mention stability. The 705 was simply too heavy and sluggish for my liking.
On the other hand, I was once in a race where they used an old outdoor roller-skating rink and I had to use yellow in the front and while in the rear with the gold pre-tension/progressive spring set-up just to complete one lap without skidding!
#2955
Originally posted by fmolzer
I think Serpent simply likes my driving so much they decided to change the colour of their company in my honor. After all, I have been running orange painted snakes for 5 years by now....
I think Serpent simply likes my driving so much they decided to change the colour of their company in my honor. After all, I have been running orange painted snakes for 5 years by now....
Yeah, if that was true, then RB and NovaMax would also supply you their engines !



