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Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by samuelsonmark71 (Post 10932649)
Also, you can add a few shims to the ball stud that you have to raise it some for the 8mm mod. It doesnt HAVE to be 7 or 8, could be 5 with the stock stud

I am currently running 5mm with the stock hubs. if I raise the outside 8mm and dont raise the inside, what will the net effect be?

Krio 07-03-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by SMR 510RR (Post 10932628)
Diameter is one of the paramaters used to determine the rate of the spring...If you permanently change diameter you change the rate of the spring.

You are changing the diameter and pitch proportionately. All that really matters is the wire length, or how many free coils there are. I said "technically" because you are slightly cold hardening the spring, but since these springs are cold rolled and coiled, it really doesn't matter. The spring rate doesn't change.

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Krio (Post 10932686)
You are changing the diameter and pitch proportionately. All that really matters is the wire length, or how many free coils there are. I said "technically" because you are slightly cold hardening the spring, but since these springs are cold rolled and coiled, it really doesn't matter. The spring rate doesn't change.

Dang, you is smart, lol. All I read was ^&%^& 76^&%^& *^%&)_

Krio 07-03-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10932694)
Dang, you is smart, lol. All I read was ^&%^& 76^&%^& *^%&)_

:lol:

I typed that as I sit here running Finite Element Analysis (FEAs) for a Mitsubishi rear coil for one of their 2014 cars and doing a drawing check on another set of full size springs.

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 10:14 AM

I am surfing RCTECH while I dial into conference calls. Mine sounds way more boring.

Krio 07-03-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10932723)
I am surfing RCTECH while I dial into conference calls. Mine sounds way more boring.

Yeah, but your's is probably a better excuse.

ryanpatrickgore 07-03-2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10932578)
That is fine, I am just getting really frustrated with this team edition 4x4. It came lacking in so many areas, I find myself constantly ordering parts. I ordered the C hubs and now I find out once my parts come in, I cant set it up properly. Meh. lol, I just want the truck to drive in a straight line and its costing me so much to fix all the issues.


I have been nothing but happy with mine. I did the 8mm and made it even better. Other than that great performance with stock parts

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 10:24 AM

This is the most recent setup posted on the AE website. I am trying to understand it better. What does the 19t pully up front due?
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca..._JC_Spring.pdf

Krio 07-03-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10932751)
This is the most recent setup posted on the AE website. I am trying to understand it better. What does the 19t pully up front due?
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca..._JC_Spring.pdf

The 19 tooth pulley introduces 'overdrive' into the front. In short, the front tires rotate 5% faster than the rear. This is typically used to stabilize the truck on power, so you should definitely try it given how your truck handles.

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Krio (Post 10932760)
The 19 tooth pulley introduces 'overdrive' into the front. In short, the front tires rotate 5% faster than the rear. This is typically used to stabilize the truck on power, so you should definitely try it given how your truck handles.

Yeah, that might be something to play with. I am hoping the optional ack rack will help with the sensitivity at med/high speeds.

t0p_sh0tta 07-03-2012 10:58 AM

What tires are you running? I love to mix and match.

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 10932848)
What tires are you running? I love to mix and match.

I dont have a lot of tires atm. I have a full set of Proline Snipers. These seem to work fine when the track is dry. I have a set of HB Beams Pink compound. These work decent when the track is wet. And i have the kit tires...Not really sure what good they are, lol. There is only 1 other sc10 4x4 at m my track, the rest are losi. I forget what the other sc20 4x4 runs. I think JC double D green, but I am not sure. He gave me his setup sheet, but I am at work. But he did odd things like, shortest link in the rear. I have not seen anyone run it like that. That helps the rear stick better in corners right? He also runs 40wt front and 25 weight rear oils. In generqal most people prefer a tire with a bar in the middle and square pins for the rest of the tire.


I must state that we do "night" racing. The first heat it is sunny, second heat the sun is down and the track is lightly wet, by the time we get to the mains, the track is very damp. When you walk on the track before the mains, its wet clay with a spring to it. But it does not fall apart, it holds together well. The first main might get some clay sticking to their tires, but everyone else will come off with no clay attached to the tread. No idea if this helps.

SOuthernFRIED 07-03-2012 12:09 PM

To answer an earlier question,, I haven't bent a single ball stud with 7.5mm of spacer's under it.

Wildcat1971 07-03-2012 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by SOuthernFRIED (Post 10933039)
To answer an earlier question,, I haven't bent a single ball stud with 7.5mm of spacer's under it.

ok, cool. I am just going to see if i can find the studs local. I am really hoping the +8 mod, the yellow front springs and the optional ack rack fix most of my issues and help calm the truck down.

Arakon 07-03-2012 12:45 PM

You don't NEED 8mm/7mm under the ballstud.. if you can't get them, try with 5mm (that works fine with the original ballstud) for now. Handling actually suffered with 7.5mm for me, while 5mm feels just right.


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