http://teamassociated.com/pdf/cars_a...assic_2009.pdf

Ok, I did see that one but it's from 2009, doesn't show rear toe-in, and was for a blue-grooved track. I appreciate the help but I like I stated it is not blue grooved track.

Is A-Main Hobbies a reputable online shop?

It's the best one in my opinion. Great selection and service.

Try your local hobbyshop. If you have one. You might get the same deal without the shipping charge. It is a good company.

Guilty, I see your from Los Angeles area in California. Check out Speedtechrc.com as well, as they're in San Gabriel. There address is on the webpage; it shouldn't be that far of a drive.

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Anybody here running rb5 velvets on their B4s with success? Pros and Cons? Any noticed benefits?

Ive put a set on my sons, and it is alot better. Turns better and handles the jumps better. Mine is set up with the Cav's set up and doesn't turn as well or jumps as well. That said, we both drove a RB5 tonight, man their car handles so much better. Instantly gained 1/2 a second a lap. With this being our first time to drive a Kyosho. Sad to say, probably going to change cars after driving an Associated for 30+yrs. Cav must be one hell of a driver to beat superior cars.

two quick questions

i see everyone running kyosho springs on there ae buggys.. do u guys run them on the st's to or just buggys. what kyosho spring colors would i need for in door eight scale high bite clay track.

is there a performance gain to running the kyosho shocks or is it so it wont rub on the shocks??

Thanks
Joe

i hope u find one on the AE site it says the shipping department will be shut down for like week or something at the end of the month

I have an old b4 team kit that is pretty much upgraded to a FT kit except I put the K shocks on it. My old shocks were wore out so I found a brand new set for $50 which was waaaay cheaper than the new V2's, so having run my RT5 for a couple years, I knew the K shocks were great. Installation requires the use of the Kyosho bushings and you have to use some spacers to get the shock to stand off correctly and not rub anything. Other than that it is an easy change. I was very impressed with the increased handling and jumping ability with the K shocks. I love my B4 with these installed. I haven't found any cons other than people asking why you put Kyosho shocks on the AE buggy.

Having the k springs isn't a ton difference in handling compared to ae springs, but its so much nicer not having them rub the shock bodies.

Sweet! I'm in the SG valley so I'll check them out this w/e.

thanx!

Seriously. Like, WTF Associated? I bought a B4.1 last weekend, and the springs rub the shock bodies. My 10-year old Losi XXX-NT has better shocks than this. It's a shame.

Do you have to make any mods to run the Kyosho springs? Thanks in advance.