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Old 08-09-2012 | 11:37 AM
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If you can feel the difference between standard plastic and graphite arms then congratulations because you are in the upper percentile of people that can.

In all the testing that I have done going back and forth between arms, I was not able to conclusively show with lap times that one was better than the other, and I would paypal some $10 if they could show me evidence with laptimes running back and forth throughout the course of a day that one was better than the other.




Ft carbon arms make for a subtle change in steering .(less)

Rear carbon arms make a noticeable change in traction (less)


plastic or carbon neither is better then the other .

Rather just another Ae tuning option .

less traction ?
plastic rear arms may be good

Traction med to high ? Carbon rear arms may be good ..

Most use the carbon ft arm no matter where , cus B4.1 already has lots of steering.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
Then what is it called when you add washers under the front and rear ball studs? Does it not have a name?
call it

lowering or raising the roll center of car ...
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Old 08-09-2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
Then what is it called when you add washers under the front and rear ball studs? Does it not have a name?
it is part of the camber changes. The washer alter the camber gain
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Old 08-09-2012 | 12:33 PM
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Looking at http://www.redrc.net/ I dont get why so many Europeans use/race nitro?
Its less popular here, but more there? Wasn't this flipped years ago?
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Old 08-09-2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OptimumRC
Everything you said is correct.

But I guess I wouldn't say that less ackerman is harder to drive, but I just think of it as twitchier off center. The only section of the track where it is harder to drive I think is usually at the end of the straight because the car is so responsive off-center. This can cause you too turn in too early if you are not used to it, or in really high bite tracks if you turn-in too fast you can traction roll. But everywhere else on the track less ackerman makes the car feel more precise and it is really nice, especially coming onto the straight where the car can keep hugging the pipe on corner exit.

More ackerman, makes it easier to throw the car into the corner and steer from the rear as opposed to having the front do all the work.

On most indoor clay tracks I would suggest running the rear rack location, which is less ackerman. It is definitely an underated tuning option since most people obsess over shocks a little too much.

Less ackerman = rear holes (towards rear of car)?
More ackerman = forward holes?
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Old 08-09-2012 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OptimumRC
Everything you said is correct.

But I guess I wouldn't say that less ackerman is harder to drive, but I just think of it as twitchier off center. The only section of the track where it is harder to drive I think is usually at the end of the straight because the car is so responsive off-center. This can cause you too turn in too early if you are not used to it, or in really high bite tracks if you turn-in too fast you can traction roll. But everywhere else on the track less ackerman makes the car feel more precise and it is really nice, especially coming onto the straight where the car can keep hugging the pipe on corner exit.

More ackerman, makes it easier to throw the car into the corner and steer from the rear as opposed to having the front do all the work.

On most indoor clay tracks I would suggest running the rear rack location, which is less ackerman. It is definitely an underated tuning option since most people obsess over shocks a little too much.
So less traction you might use the rear hole or less ackerman and vise versa? Can you flip the ackerman plate to gain another forward hole for even more ackerman for high bite tracks?
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Old 08-09-2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by skrichter
Less ackerman = rear holes (towards rear of car)?
More ackerman = forward holes?
That is correct!
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Old 08-09-2012 | 01:32 PM
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I have broken 5 of the solid pins that link the bone to the axle in 5 runs. 4 on the left then on a new layout first run broke a right one... They are breaking when I roll onto the throttle thru on a corner exit while the car is on the ground; breaking on the inside wheel. This is a Worlds kit (9040), hex wheel adapters and the factory set up. I am running a Reedy 7.5 w/ stock timing and a Reedy 4000 2s shorty. The car only has 5 full runs on it.

Has anyone else seen this? Solutions? Ideas?

In the pics you’re seeing that the pin is bent on one side and broken off on the other.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 01:39 PM
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umm. That is not normal at all. I would double install against the manual. I suspect the pin is shifting and then twisting. The worlds should have a retainer clip.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by derekbsmith
thats camber link.
I bought this...great aid: team associated rc cheat sheets from Smashwords
I know! I have this and I was wondering what it was called so I can look it up on this app. thank you to everyone for their help
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Old 08-09-2012 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Lester
I have broken 5 of the solid pins that link the bone to the axle in 5 runs. 4 on the left then on a new layout first run broke a right one... They are breaking when I roll onto the throttle thru on a corner exit while the car is on the ground; breaking on the inside wheel. This is a Worlds kit (9040), hex wheel adapters and the factory set up. I am running a Reedy 7.5 w/ stock timing and a Reedy 4000 2s shorty. The car only has 5 full runs on it.

Has anyone else seen this? Solutions? Ideas?

In the pics you’re seeing that the pin is bent on one side and broken off on the other.
never had that issue... how do build your your driveshaft? personally i just use the retainer C clip and put a dab of CA on it to keep it from moving and shooting the pin out. i dont use the set screw.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Lester
I have broken 5 of the solid pins that link the bone to the axle in 5 runs. 4 on the left then on a new layout first run broke a right one... They are breaking when I roll onto the throttle thru on a corner exit while the car is on the ground; breaking on the inside wheel. This is a Worlds kit (9040), hex wheel adapters and the factory set up. I am running a Reedy 7.5 w/ stock timing and a Reedy 4000 2s shorty. The car only has 5 full runs on it.

Has anyone else seen this? Solutions? Ideas?

In the pics you’re seeing that the pin is bent on one side and broken off on the other.
Don't land on the throttle.
I have gone through 4 sets of CVA's and 5 idler gears due to landing on the throttle from a jump.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Asharus
never had that issue... how do build your your driveshaft? personally i just use the retainer C clip and put a dab of CA on it to keep it from moving and shooting the pin out. i dont use the set screw.
They say to use the clip or the set screw, not both. I use the set screw. the clip alone didn't work for me, kept falling off.
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Old 08-09-2012 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jf+
They say to use the clip or the set screw, not both. I use the set screw. the clip alone didn't work for me, kept falling off.
A drop of glue keeps the clip on

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Old 08-09-2012 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Asharus
never had that issue... how do build your your driveshaft? personally i just use the retainer C clip and put a dab of CA on it to keep it from moving and shooting the pin out. i dont use the set screw.
+1 Just redid mine last night on my T4.1 doing exactly this.
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