axs1990

Hi Jilles
Please share some information for carpet racing. The 417 is easy to drive but i cant get rid over the last bit of understeer, which costs time. Compared to other cars there is a little bit of agression on the front missing. I know this was also an issue on last ETS for your team, but I guess there are SOME ideas.
My setup is quite your basic setup, I even went the front arms back a little to gain weight on the front axle but no final success.

Secondly please post the partnumber for the ball studs you use with the dampers(seen in the videos), I think they have a hex inside so you dont have to pop the shocks of and create all the play there right?

Thanks a lot, your recent posts have always been very helpfull and kept the trf fast.

CraigM

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RedRC reported that Victor was testing some at the latest ETS round

L.Fairtrace

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Marc and Victor both had them in their cars at the IIC.

TryHard

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I've spoken to Max Ma at Roche, and he mentioned that the DCJ/ECS shafts will be ready for production soon...

miccal

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More videos:

http://www.redrc.net/2011/11/video-p...lles-groskamp/

Thanks Jilles!

Minami

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nice. thanks for the info. i'm quite surprised that DCJs didn't quite make a lot of buzz, are they not as effective as others say they should?

TryHard

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On another topic entirely...

Jilles, having seen the large level of flooding in the Bangkok recently, hope you haven't been badly affected. The pictures of RC City are quite saddening having been there earlier this year, and I know your living in Bangkok now, not so far from there, so hope you haven't been badly affected. Sad to see to such problems regardless for the Thai people.

Ed

caltek1

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Hello Jilles,

I am after some advice regarding the setup changes that were made to your mini at this years TITC race.

Did you have to make large changes to the oils used in the shocks and springs? What about ride height.

I did troll through this thread and read different things you do for the shocks on your mini.

Do you use the TRF mini shocks and if so are you using internal spacers to limit droop.

I am in the process of building/setting up a car for TITC next year and was just after some direction for my mini. I will be running a MWB car and use either a Swift or Subaru body.

BTW,

I hope things are getting better in Bangkok, from the news the place is still inundated with water.

Thank you,

Regards,

Calvin.

dontfeelcold

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Jilles,

Do you consider cutting the motor mount and the top deck a necessary thing to do for running modified?

Do you have a base setup for the 417?

Mugen10

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I am not running the 417 but I have the 416X with lipo chassis. I run at a small carpet track. A few things I have found that seems to settle down the rear end on carpet is . I layed the rear shocks down to next to last lower shock tower hole. I also run the stiffest front sway bar with no sway bar in rear. I also run 3 mm drop in front with 2mm droop in rear. I also run 28 tires. The car is still a bit to aggressive and want to make the car a bit softer. For a small tight carpet track the car is very managable.

I hope this helps some.

Pro10noob

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Try to make the rear of the car a bit narrower.
I also drive the 416X with lipo chassis and run a 185MM rear end.
Also use the 1XB and 1C rear suspension mounts.
Shocks are almost straight up at the rear and got good traction.
Front they are on the 3th hole from the outside.
Run med front swaybar and soft in the rear.
Works like a charm

regards Roy

Mugen10

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Hmmm, I will look into that setup. With the rear 1XB and 1C what is the toe deg.? I thought the more narrow the rear is the less grip.
I copied this info from the Hudy setup manual.

EFFECTS OF TRACK-WIDTH ADJUSTMENT
Front trackwidth
Wider • Decreases front grip.
• Increases understeer.
• Slower steering response.
• Use to avoid traction rolling.
Narrower • Increases front grip.
• Decreases understeer.
• Faster steering response.
Rear trackwidth
Wider • Increases rear grip.
• Use if car is traction rolling.

hagen

jill

thank you very much for this treat

i will like to know a set up for the tamiya 417 wearing foam nitro tires or some advice for faom tires in asphalt i know the car works better with rubber tires but in my country they are so expensive so we use foam tires because they are cheap i will apreciated any advice

subaru73

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Hello Jilles just purchased some abec35 ceramic hybrid bearing set for my 416x what do you you use for bearing oil?

Mugen10

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Thanks Pro10noob for your info.
I did try the rear block and I do like the results. The car has improved so much now that I am learning more about the car. Tamiya fan for many more years.