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Old 03-31-2009, 02:50 AM   #1
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Hello everyone,

After some positive feedback from the racers on the TRF416/416WE topic I will start my own Thread which all of you can use for questions about the 416(WE) and SpeedPassion motors.

I will do my best to keep up on this thread and try to help out you guys as good as I can.

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Old 03-31-2009, 03:01 AM   #2
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Congrats on your recent form Jilles, very impressive.

Do you guys play rock paper scissors to see who wins?

Cheers from Down Under

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Hi Jilles,

Congrats on your recent top form and winning the 3rd round of ETS.

It would be great if you could posts up your setups.

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hi, Jilles. thanks for creating the thread bud. Would you suggest a thicker top deck on the WE for foam asphalt racing, to lessen the flex.
and also how can i reduce the chatter from the spool when i have the steering on full lock? (will this affect the handeling or should i not worry too much)? thanks for any help cheers from South Africa
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hi, Jilles. thanks for creating the thread bud. Would you suggest a thicker top deck on the WE for foam asphalt racing, to lessen the flex.
and also how can i reduce the chatter from the spool when i have the steering on full lock? (will this affect the handeling or should i not worry too much)? thanks for any help cheers from South Africa
For foam asphalt, i would suggest running a 1way, no need for a spool on foam, it will just bind up the car mid corner.

Run front and rear gas car foams, but to 26mm wide, start with 37 shore, if track is grippy go to 40 shore.
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ok cool, i will be sure to fit the one way.... any advice on the chassis flex?
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Fancy posting some pixs of your 416, minus the body? ... as they say pictures paint a 1,000 words

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Jilles, can you post set up for foam on carpet? If you don't have it can you advice me what I should do to the car for it to handle good for foam carpet race? At least i ll have an idea and a point to start with.

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Jilles pronounced yeelees right? lol any how just picked up a 416 we and havent tried it yet ,gonna keep an eye on this thread
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Hi Jilles

I'm switching to the 416WE very soon, and after some advice;

What is your 'usual' methods of additiving and warming your tires - both indoor and out. And what are your current recommended additives again for both indoor and out?

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I'm switching to the 416WE very soon, and after some advice;

What is your 'usual' methods of additiving and warming your tires - both indoor and out. And what are your current recommended additives again for both indoor and out?

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Jilles,

Thanks for creating this thread! My questions would be when you guys get to a track, do you have a usual method which you try to setup your car with? I.e. are there some adjustments you try before other adjustments? Do you have a base setup? What kind of "feel" do you look for in your car?

I would also say any pictures of your car would be great to see.
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Jilles,

Thanks for creating this thread! My questions would be when you guys get to a track, do you have a usual method which you try to setup your car with? I.e. are there some adjustments you try before other adjustments? Do you have a base setup? What kind of "feel" do you look for in your car?

I would also say any pictures of your car would be great to see.
As mentioned by Carking, I wish to know the same things. Just for a novice guy
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Hello Bradd,
I wish we could do this sometimes but Marc won't do it.

Jonest,
The set-up of the LRP race is very similair to the ETS set-up of Poland. We normally play with shockoil between 400-500 and anti-dive or normal flat in front.

Sagejyoung,
I actually ran my car ones outdoor with foams and it feels less grip then with rubber tyre so I suggest the same topdeck to use for foam outdoor. For indoor foam carpet you might have to use a thicker topdeck but Tamiya has no other option then 2mm. The chatter which you get running a spool is normal, when you drive you will not notice it anymore.

ANdyUK99,
I will post some pics later of my car, no problem.

Dameetz,
I will make a set-up sheet for basic foam on carpet and post it tomorrow.

Michrcarver,
That's correct!

Oli,
Well for indoors we never use tyrewarmers, CS yellow or LRP carpet 2 is most used at indoor races.
For outdoors I recommend Tyre Tweak for most type of tyres and tracks, this with tyre warmer for about 20min on 60 degree.

Carking,
The whole winter we had a decent basic set-up which works at all track pretty oke. So when you come to a race we don't worry about any set-up changes till the track has the same bite as it will be for the race. Normally we only play with shockoil, indoor this is between 400-500. If the car traction rolls we make it wider on the hex. 1mm wider.
It sounds easy but actually with this car it is easy to have the right pace all the time.
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Did you notice a difference going from the 416 to the 416WE? Do you switch back and forth between the 2 or is there an advantage of one over the other on certain tracks?
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