"Ask" Jilles Groskamp Tamiya 416 & 417, Team Orion Motors
#1906
Hi Jilles and Congrates on being World Champion!!!!
Carlos M.
Carlos M.
#1908
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
His Shocks...it looks like his car had these shock bodies and these caps but the caps on his car were in the light gray TRF low friction plastic not the normal darker plastic....not sure if they offer the shock tops in low friction plastic yet?
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42131
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=51280
You would probably need this to mount the new shock tops to the shock towers.....his car looked to have some option/proto shock mount???
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=51282
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42131
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=51280
You would probably need this to mount the new shock tops to the shock towers.....his car looked to have some option/proto shock mount???
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=51282
Hi Kevin,
I think the shock body is a proto shock body as closer look the top end design of the shock body looks like the buddy shock design..
I might be wrong but please do take a look at the photos again.
Maybe Jilles can answer our questions here??
thanks
#1909
Hi Jilles,
Congratulations for the victory at worlds.
Nicolō C.(from Italy)
Congratulations for the victory at worlds.
Nicolō C.(from Italy)
#1910
Thanks Jilles, I thought that may be the case
Correct me if I'm wrong but your setup said the shocks were mounted on hole 1, while kiyo said hole 2 - is it a different tower?
Also, if I'm not mistaken, you ran the plastic arms and not the carbon ones, does that just give more grip?
Do you know if the buggy style shocks will be released?
Sorry for all the questions, thanks again "champ"
Craig
Correct me if I'm wrong but your setup said the shocks were mounted on hole 1, while kiyo said hole 2 - is it a different tower?
Also, if I'm not mistaken, you ran the plastic arms and not the carbon ones, does that just give more grip?
Do you know if the buggy style shocks will be released?
Sorry for all the questions, thanks again "champ"
Craig
hi jilles, when changing brands of tires do you setup for the same feel? for example coming from sorex to ride tires? for me, have less traction i tried harder and then softer springs more droop etc but it doesnt have the same feel... should i concentrate on setting it up or just face the fact that it has a lot less traction and drive accordingly? the local racers here have already caught up with sorex tires using ride tires.. i tried some of their set up changes but i still dont like the feel and dont feel fast even when practice racing with other people..
Yeah it works, but you have to remove the low voltage protection completely (with DSBR).
If you have problems removing it, plug it to 2S battery but use the DSBR adapter cable that comes with the 1S ESC. Always have to use the DSBR 1S adapter cable with the 1S version, it doesn't work with the one that comes with 2-3S.
Congrats for Jilles!
Jilles, do you use 100% brake on transmitter and change the max brake force on the ESC only? Does the brake work somehow differently with that compared to 100% brake on esc but 50% on transmitter?
Your 1/12 setup has quite long gearing and lot of boost, did the esc run with reasonable temps?
Usually have used about 30mm gearing and about 10deg boost and some turbo.
If you have problems removing it, plug it to 2S battery but use the DSBR adapter cable that comes with the 1S ESC. Always have to use the DSBR 1S adapter cable with the 1S version, it doesn't work with the one that comes with 2-3S.
Congrats for Jilles!
Jilles, do you use 100% brake on transmitter and change the max brake force on the ESC only? Does the brake work somehow differently with that compared to 100% brake on esc but 50% on transmitter?
Your 1/12 setup has quite long gearing and lot of boost, did the esc run with reasonable temps?
Usually have used about 30mm gearing and about 10deg boost and some turbo.
Hi everyone.
I got a R10 Pro and are planing on running it in 13.5 boosted class. Found this setup by Jilles, but can't find the firmware mentioned there on the orion web page.
Anyone know where i can fint it?
Firmware: V3.0_110729_STOCK (http://teamorion.com/images/product_...p_Jilles_3.pdf)
I got a R10 Pro and are planing on running it in 13.5 boosted class. Found this setup by Jilles, but can't find the firmware mentioned there on the orion web page.
Anyone know where i can fint it?
Firmware: V3.0_110729_STOCK (http://teamorion.com/images/product_...p_Jilles_3.pdf)
Thanks!
Thanks!
#1911
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
Hi Jilles, well done again at the euros - if you didn't have the belt issue it looks like you would have another title to your name!
Back to electric, have you got any tips for getting more initial steering. I'm already running sweep (C/B) and antidive at the front but I don't seem to have the same bite that others have
Back to electric, have you got any tips for getting more initial steering. I'm already running sweep (C/B) and antidive at the front but I don't seem to have the same bite that others have
#1912
Tech Adept
R10 1s
Hi Jilles
Contratiolation on the worlds , and also 3 place at the nitro euro , by far the fastest driver/car of all drivers
Thinking of getting a R10 1s speedo , but I have a few questions.
Last year I tried a SP gt2,1 and hade big temp problems. Do you know if the R10 is based on the same electronic/software?? When you look at the manual does the programming guide looks very much the same. I can tell you that same motor and gearing i did run on the SP , I had absolute no problems on running on a Nosram.
Thanks for your time and answer
Regards
Michael from denmark
Contratiolation on the worlds , and also 3 place at the nitro euro , by far the fastest driver/car of all drivers
Thinking of getting a R10 1s speedo , but I have a few questions.
Last year I tried a SP gt2,1 and hade big temp problems. Do you know if the R10 is based on the same electronic/software?? When you look at the manual does the programming guide looks very much the same. I can tell you that same motor and gearing i did run on the SP , I had absolute no problems on running on a Nosram.
Thanks for your time and answer
Regards
Michael from denmark
#1913
Tech Apprentice
Hey Jilles,
First: Congratulations to your World Championship Title!
Second: Iīve had a break of 4years and buyed a Tamiya TRF417X last month, build it with your tips from Youtube and the Car runs pretty perfect!
Iīve tested it on 3 different tracks (all carpet) and used a setup from Marc as a basic starting point, because he runīs his 417x almost the same on every track, with small changes.
The Car runs pretty good (17,5T Class and also 10,5T tested) but i found, that the 2,25mm chassis had to much flex, so i bought the 2,5mm Chassis and the 2,25mm topdeck and tested it this weekend on a high/medium carpet track.
It wasnīt that bad, but iīve expected more but at least it wasnīt good testing conditions because a lot of driftcars were on the track and so the track was very dirty and the car was difficult to drive.
Iīve seen that Marc always uses the 2,5mm chassis and Vicktor used both the original one and the thicker chassis in his setup sheets.
So which combination of topdeck and chassis would you basiclly use on carpet?
Because iīve only got one car and it takes so long to change the chassis at every track and build the car properly... Also i would like to know if itīs worth to use the original Tamiya TRF blue O-Rings in the Dampers or the Tamiya X-Rings?
My Setup is down below, maybe you can check and give me a advice? (Note: I didnīt use the lower mount between the motor mount bulkheads!)
THANKS and best regards from Germany!
First: Congratulations to your World Championship Title!
Second: Iīve had a break of 4years and buyed a Tamiya TRF417X last month, build it with your tips from Youtube and the Car runs pretty perfect!
Iīve tested it on 3 different tracks (all carpet) and used a setup from Marc as a basic starting point, because he runīs his 417x almost the same on every track, with small changes.
The Car runs pretty good (17,5T Class and also 10,5T tested) but i found, that the 2,25mm chassis had to much flex, so i bought the 2,5mm Chassis and the 2,25mm topdeck and tested it this weekend on a high/medium carpet track.
It wasnīt that bad, but iīve expected more but at least it wasnīt good testing conditions because a lot of driftcars were on the track and so the track was very dirty and the car was difficult to drive.
Iīve seen that Marc always uses the 2,5mm chassis and Vicktor used both the original one and the thicker chassis in his setup sheets.
So which combination of topdeck and chassis would you basiclly use on carpet?
Because iīve only got one car and it takes so long to change the chassis at every track and build the car properly... Also i would like to know if itīs worth to use the original Tamiya TRF blue O-Rings in the Dampers or the Tamiya X-Rings?
My Setup is down below, maybe you can check and give me a advice? (Note: I didnīt use the lower mount between the motor mount bulkheads!)
THANKS and best regards from Germany!
Last edited by Philipp1990; 08-27-2012 at 07:29 AM.
#1914
Do you have to send the charger to the factory? is it possible to do it at home? Where can you find the firmware?
Thanks!
#1916
Hi Jilles
Contratiolation on the worlds , and also 3 place at the nitro euro , by far the fastest driver/car of all drivers
Thinking of getting a R10 1s speedo , but I have a few questions.
Last year I tried a SP gt2,1 and hade big temp problems. Do you know if the R10 is based on the same electronic/software?? When you look at the manual does the programming guide looks very much the same. I can tell you that same motor and gearing i did run on the SP , I had absolute no problems on running on a Nosram.
Thanks for your time and answer
Regards
Michael from denmark
Contratiolation on the worlds , and also 3 place at the nitro euro , by far the fastest driver/car of all drivers
Thinking of getting a R10 1s speedo , but I have a few questions.
Last year I tried a SP gt2,1 and hade big temp problems. Do you know if the R10 is based on the same electronic/software?? When you look at the manual does the programming guide looks very much the same. I can tell you that same motor and gearing i did run on the SP , I had absolute no problems on running on a Nosram.
Thanks for your time and answer
Regards
Michael from denmark
In the past I have been using the Nosram but the new generation R10 speedo is a whole new world!
On the Orion website there are several speedo set-ups for both stock and modified motors!
Hi Jilles, well done again at the euros - if you didn't have the belt issue it looks like you would have another title to your name!
Back to electric, have you got any tips for getting more initial steering. I'm already running sweep (C/B) and antidive at the front but I don't seem to have the same bite that others have
Back to electric, have you got any tips for getting more initial steering. I'm already running sweep (C/B) and antidive at the front but I don't seem to have the same bite that others have
If you have not same bite as others maybe they use other additives as well!
Hey Jilles,
First: Congratulations to your World Championship Title!
Second: Iīve had a break of 4years and buyed a Tamiya TRF417X last month, build it with your tips from Youtube and the Car runs pretty perfect!
Iīve tested it on 3 different tracks (all carpet) and used a setup from Marc as a basic starting point, because he runīs his 417x almost the same on every track, with small changes.
The Car runs pretty good (17,5T Class and also 10,5T tested) but i found, that the 2,25mm chassis had to much flex, so i bought the 2,5mm Chassis and the 2,25mm topdeck and tested it this weekend on a high/medium carpet track.
It wasnīt that bad, but iīve expected more but at least it wasnīt good testing conditions because a lot of driftcars were on the track and so the track was very dirty and the car was difficult to drive.
Iīve seen that Marc always uses the 2,5mm chassis and Vicktor used both the original one and the thicker chassis in his setup sheets.
So which combination of topdeck and chassis would you basiclly use on carpet?
Because iīve only got one car and it takes so long to change the chassis at every track and build the car properly... Also i would like to know if itīs worth to use the original Tamiya TRF blue O-Rings in the Dampers or the Tamiya X-Rings?
My Setup is down below, maybe you can check and give me a advice? (Note: I didnīt use the lower mount between the motor mount bulkheads!)
THANKS and best regards from Germany!
First: Congratulations to your World Championship Title!
Second: Iīve had a break of 4years and buyed a Tamiya TRF417X last month, build it with your tips from Youtube and the Car runs pretty perfect!
Iīve tested it on 3 different tracks (all carpet) and used a setup from Marc as a basic starting point, because he runīs his 417x almost the same on every track, with small changes.
The Car runs pretty good (17,5T Class and also 10,5T tested) but i found, that the 2,25mm chassis had to much flex, so i bought the 2,5mm Chassis and the 2,25mm topdeck and tested it this weekend on a high/medium carpet track.
It wasnīt that bad, but iīve expected more but at least it wasnīt good testing conditions because a lot of driftcars were on the track and so the track was very dirty and the car was difficult to drive.
Iīve seen that Marc always uses the 2,5mm chassis and Vicktor used both the original one and the thicker chassis in his setup sheets.
So which combination of topdeck and chassis would you basiclly use on carpet?
Because iīve only got one car and it takes so long to change the chassis at every track and build the car properly... Also i would like to know if itīs worth to use the original Tamiya TRF blue O-Rings in the Dampers or the Tamiya X-Rings?
My Setup is down below, maybe you can check and give me a advice? (Note: I didnīt use the lower mount between the motor mount bulkheads!)
THANKS and best regards from Germany!
Most of the team always use the blue TRF o-rings in the shocks!
The only thing on your set-up that you should try different is the ackermann shims! I see you use 4mm, in my opinion this is too much! Try 2mm!
Let me know how this goes for you?
Jilles
#1917
#1918
Were may we find some settings for 417x high grip track for 13.5 class.
thanks.
thanks.
#1920
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
Hi Jilles,
Congrats on your win at the ride cup, I'm looking forward to the release of the new car and running it at TITC 2013! Did you use a similar setup to worlds or a wider setup for the grippy track and traction compound?
Also can you explain the effect of different front and rear wheelbase settings. I know you have said previously that 0.5mm front 3.5mm rear is good for steering, but at RROC Viktor used 1mm/3.5mm and at worlds you used 0.5mm/3mm. I would have thought on a big track you would use a longer wheelbase?
Thanks!
Congrats on your win at the ride cup, I'm looking forward to the release of the new car and running it at TITC 2013! Did you use a similar setup to worlds or a wider setup for the grippy track and traction compound?
Also can you explain the effect of different front and rear wheelbase settings. I know you have said previously that 0.5mm front 3.5mm rear is good for steering, but at RROC Viktor used 1mm/3.5mm and at worlds you used 0.5mm/3mm. I would have thought on a big track you would use a longer wheelbase?
Thanks!