hey ,this thread sounds like CNC news break '

ISUZUGUY..... I like your car in the avatar. Do you have the big picture ? Can I copy ?

Does the $ for this kit come down yet

Too bad.... I think it is going up for sometime. I bought it around $380 when mtx4 first came out in the market. It's price control thing now....

just line the engine straight and you shouldn't have any trouble, no one over here has striped any gears yet, just dont have too much play in your mesh

the picture is from the hpi body section .its about 4years old

Can you guys explain the different clutch shoes?

I did a search and came up with this?

Hardest to softest
Black --> Gray --> Red --> Yellow [edit this is incorrect]

Does that sound correct? Would you guys say yellow is most aggressive then or possibly not as aggressive? What have you guys run and found out about each shoe?

Hardest to softest
Red --> Gray --> Yellow

I dont think thats correct. Red is softer than Gray or Black, hence why its so much more aggressive, because there is no slip. Reason why you see JP engines being promoted with Red clutch shoes.

then why is the red one more expensive all the 1/8th guys use red any say it lasts the longest

Because it holds much better to heat and glazing the surface of the shoes and the needs of a 1/8 clutch is very different of a 200mm clutch. What works for a 1/8 doesn't need to work for a 200mm car.

Red shoe is great for some setups (In fact I've used it sometimes on 200mm) I use routinely a yellow shoe from Enetti (I haven't tested the yellow one - have one for testing, but need to do it).

the red one is the softest, it has the most bite

Black is best for grip and bite - normally after the heats, i would then change a new one for finals

Red last the longest but doesn't have the grip and bite of the black - used for practices

Grey is crap

Yellow i haven't tried.

hm.....to me Grey works great.

Same here. The grey works excellent.