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#8446
WOW - away for the weekend, little testing, little attempt to catch up on sleep -- seems like neither worked 
lets answer some questions:
Graveyard - yes, send it in via the RMA process, we would be glad to take a look at it. We sometimes see that the bullet connectors come loose and create an arc between the plug and the holder, that arc measures a very high temp, which trips a cut off. If those lights are blinking as you described something is getting hot and causeing cut off. BTW I watched people with systems that cost 3x as much as Copperhead have the same issue over the weekend. It happens. Please feel free to send it in, it comes straight to my desk.
ridge - there is not an updated software for Copperhead series, what you have is what you have. If you need to reset your settings, they are all listed in your manual (or the one on the website).
Rapid, any motorized part in the system can cause a spike that effects the system - servo, motor, fan, speed control. Yes a servo can cause an low voltage spike. If you turn down your steering EPA to only the amount you need, it will save extra spiking - which adds up when you hit the throttle, land off a jump, try and steer, then slam on the brakes. Its amp draw overload!!
Stascom - I have seem measurements spiking over 200 amps

lets answer some questions:Graveyard - yes, send it in via the RMA process, we would be glad to take a look at it. We sometimes see that the bullet connectors come loose and create an arc between the plug and the holder, that arc measures a very high temp, which trips a cut off. If those lights are blinking as you described something is getting hot and causeing cut off. BTW I watched people with systems that cost 3x as much as Copperhead have the same issue over the weekend. It happens. Please feel free to send it in, it comes straight to my desk.
ridge - there is not an updated software for Copperhead series, what you have is what you have. If you need to reset your settings, they are all listed in your manual (or the one on the website).
Rapid, any motorized part in the system can cause a spike that effects the system - servo, motor, fan, speed control. Yes a servo can cause an low voltage spike. If you turn down your steering EPA to only the amount you need, it will save extra spiking - which adds up when you hit the throttle, land off a jump, try and steer, then slam on the brakes. Its amp draw overload!!
Stascom - I have seem measurements spiking over 200 amps
#8448
Tech Adept
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 129
From: Louisiana
Hey guys, FYI if you own a VTX8, and you ever use timing boost, it works great, but if one day you decide to disable it, you may experience a very very slow vehicle and every single component will get hot within seconds, put the boost timing back in, and it will be fine, or at least some timing, I have confirmed this with 2 different VTX8 controllers, so do not ignore the motor power disclaimer! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Both controllers are still working, though. And they still kick A$$!
#8449
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Hey guys, FYI if you own a VTX8, and you ever use timing boost, it works great, but if one day you decide to disable it, you may experience a very very slow vehicle and every single component will get hot within seconds, put the boost timing back in, and it will be fine, or at least some timing, I have confirmed this with 2 different VTX8 controllers, so do not ignore the motor power disclaimer! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Both controllers are still working, though. And they still kick A$$!
#8450
WOW - away for the weekend, little testing, little attempt to catch up on sleep -- seems like neither worked 
lets answer some questions:
Graveyard - yes, send it in via the RMA process, we would be glad to take a look at it. We sometimes see that the bullet connectors come loose and create an arc between the plug and the holder, that arc measures a very high temp, which trips a cut off. If those lights are blinking as you described something is getting hot and causeing cut off. BTW I watched people with systems that cost 3x as much as Copperhead have the same issue over the weekend. It happens. Please feel free to send it in, it comes straight to my desk.
ridge - there is not an updated software for Copperhead series, what you have is what you have. If you need to reset your settings, they are all listed in your manual (or the one on the website).
Rapid, any motorized part in the system can cause a spike that effects the system - servo, motor, fan, speed control. Yes a servo can cause an low voltage spike. If you turn down your steering EPA to only the amount you need, it will save extra spiking - which adds up when you hit the throttle, land off a jump, try and steer, then slam on the brakes. Its amp draw overload!!
Stascom - I have seem measurements spiking over 200 amps

lets answer some questions:Graveyard - yes, send it in via the RMA process, we would be glad to take a look at it. We sometimes see that the bullet connectors come loose and create an arc between the plug and the holder, that arc measures a very high temp, which trips a cut off. If those lights are blinking as you described something is getting hot and causeing cut off. BTW I watched people with systems that cost 3x as much as Copperhead have the same issue over the weekend. It happens. Please feel free to send it in, it comes straight to my desk.
ridge - there is not an updated software for Copperhead series, what you have is what you have. If you need to reset your settings, they are all listed in your manual (or the one on the website).
Rapid, any motorized part in the system can cause a spike that effects the system - servo, motor, fan, speed control. Yes a servo can cause an low voltage spike. If you turn down your steering EPA to only the amount you need, it will save extra spiking - which adds up when you hit the throttle, land off a jump, try and steer, then slam on the brakes. Its amp draw overload!!
Stascom - I have seem measurements spiking over 200 amps
Other than shipping, what is the charge for you Guys to look at or repair it?
Thanks and sorry ya had a ruff weekend....
#8451
Tech Adept
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 129
From: Louisiana
I have never used boost with my 8th scale. Are you referring to 4x4 SCT? Please specify and list the rest of your settings, gearing, motor, etc. Adding boost is the quickest way to blow up you stuff if you aren't careful. Not saying you can't or shouldn't, just saying that you need to do it right.
But,in another 1/8 a 1900 4-pole with 17/46 gearing, 80%punch and 5 degrees of timing from 7-34K is being tested. Really, the timing was not wanted, but the esc insisted I keep it.
I have never used the top speed timing before btw.
#8452
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Well, I gotta tell ya, I usually run 6-pole motors in my 1/8 buggy, and I have tested them to find that they only reach the top speed of a 4 pole when they have a lot of timing.. like up to 30 degrees, and they run cooler, but drink too much juice.Now In my car I have a 2050 6-pole, 14/45 gearing 60% punch and up to 7 degrees of timing from 20-30K. This seems to even the power out, And for some reason, has been very efficient for me. And is actually just normal top speeds with a lot of grunt.
But,in another 1/8 a 1900 4-pole with 17/46 gearing, 80%punch and 5 degrees of timing from 7-34K is being tested. Really, the timing was not wanted, but the esc insisted I keep it.
I have never used the top speed timing before btw.
But,in another 1/8 a 1900 4-pole with 17/46 gearing, 80%punch and 5 degrees of timing from 7-34K is being tested. Really, the timing was not wanted, but the esc insisted I keep it.
I have never used the top speed timing before btw.
Please keep us updated on your progress. I find it interesting.
#8455
some guy - VTX8 will run fine with our without timing as long as gearing and settings are accurate. Just be careful with the timing, its easy to go to far.
Mike - if it was quick at that temp your in really good shape!!
Graveyard - there is no charge for items under warranty. If its outside of warranty we will contact you directly.
Mike - if it was quick at that temp your in really good shape!!
Graveyard - there is no charge for items under warranty. If its outside of warranty we will contact you directly.
#8456
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Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 227
Awesome! I didn't actually expect an answer. That seems consistent with my observation. Running 18T/47T in Prolite 4x4 was getting the ESC pretty warm (130F+). With 150A-rated Copperhead-R, that motor must've been pretty thirsty for electrons
#8457
some guy - VTX8 will run fine with our without timing as long as gearing and settings are accurate. Just be careful with the timing, its easy to go to far.
Mike - if it was quick at that temp your in really good shape!!
Graveyard - there is no charge for items under warranty. If its outside of warranty we will contact you directly.
Mike - if it was quick at that temp your in really good shape!!
Graveyard - there is no charge for items under warranty. If its outside of warranty we will contact you directly.
#8458
Had to send in my copper head system yesterday it felt like it spun a magnet in the motor....
but at less there shop is only about 60 miles away from me and vipers turnaround time is really good....
but at less there shop is only about 60 miles away from me and vipers turnaround time is really good....
#8459



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