R/C Tech Forums - Speed Passion Thread

Thanks Howard! Albert already immediately sent me a pair of new style capacitors. After comparing them to the original that went up in smoke, it does indeed appear that the original that came with my new production Pro was soldered with the wires reversed at the factory. Now that I know how to tell, I will be on the lookout in the future. Both the two new Capacitors seem correct in polarity. I'd be more than happy to send the bad original capacitor and/or pictures for your inspection. Thanks again for the great support!!!

I am sorry about this happened....I must did that at 4am while watching the home shopping network all night...my bad...LOL

Solara

11-30-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 3Captain (Post 11499835)

Have only had my Reventon Pro for about a month and it has the old capacitor. Is this a problem?

I want to know...when you mentioned it is OLD cap, what made you think it is the old design..? If the cap is wired incorrectly, please contact our office and we will send you a new replacement.

Again...only the CAP with the circuit board at the end is the one to use. For all Reventon S, R and PRO version.

Solara

11-30-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by subaru_tech (Post 11500052)

i just bought a orion vortex 8 s .to open it and find a speed passion warrnty card in it.
so im assuming speed passion makes this for orion?
also can the speed passion card for the rev pro be used on the orion.
i have 4 of these programmers from my rev pro's now.i had to by a orion box which was way to much money just to reverse motor.

Yeah, I know....and I am thinking about the LCD card trade in program now so that we can reuse these extra LCD card that our customer laying around.

I did not know that the VORTEX motor will have a SPEED PASSION warranty card inside...are you use..?

And no....Orion ESC is base from Hobbywing V3, totally different things compare to the Reventon PRO LCD card.

BTW...why do you need to reverse the motor rotataion...? Am I reading this correctly? Even on Durango 410 it does not need to reverse the rotation. I don't think there is a car in the market that required a motor rotation to be reverse except the home made RC car when mounting the motor the wrong side.

Solara

11-30-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bobsavenger (Post 11499160)

I got the ESC on a trade and was told it was working so I have to take his word on that. I didn't redo his wiring except the battery leads so I will redo his motor wiring also. The Orion VST motor is new so I don't believe it's anything with that. I'm wondering if it could be something he had programmed in it also. He didn't give me the programmer so I'm not sure what settings he has things on. Could it be something on the BEC circuit? The worst case is if it was something on the Circuit Board.

Does Speed Passion have a trade in program or a refurb program?

When your car suddenly losing speed...several things might happened.

(1)....sensor port on the ESC is demaged, all the timing are gone, when running sensorless, there are no timing added to the motor, hint the slow speed. Check again with a different motor and see that happen again or not.

(2) Sensor wire is bad...get a new one, even it looks new, it might be already demaged. Check the wire with different ESC and see that is the case.

(3) Sesnor unit inside the motor is demaged...check the motor with other ESc and see that is the case.

(4) Check the poles and wire connection from ESC to motor...one of them might be damaged or loose, re-solder if necessary.

trx450racer174

11-30-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500165)

I meant to ship the customer a brand new caps to replace his damaged one. All the approved caps should have a circuit board on a single cylinder cap. And I don't see any old version except my piles of sample....caps without the circuit board SHOULD NOT BE USED.

Howard the Cap I received on my Rev Pro does not have a circuit board on it.

The cap I received is a single large round cap that reads F25V 2200uf.

It's completely round with no visible flat side or circuit board.

I take it that I should not continue to use this cap and contact you for a replacement???

Cain	11-30-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500209)

in 1/8 electric, motor rotation reversing does take place at times, unless your diff cases allow you to flip there direction. (Hyper Star for one)

Cain	11-30-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500147)

Rotor is the 13.5mm....but the best part is the stator...MMM inspired design.

Again...don't try it with 4 poles motor, I did, and so does our driver...not working.

That's a real shame the ESC won't work with 4 pole motors. I hope that is something you can look into patching.

subaru_tech

11-30-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500209)

i think you meant by (use)sure? yes ,it was in all ready writting.ill post a pic.

i have the orion connected correctly,a-b-c and even if i reverse the radio.it will only stay in reverse.since im running sensored.i can not reverse the 2 outer motor wires.

after going thru the esc set up a million times,you must read the very small print. it states (set up items 10-15 can only be changed with a setting box).

and reverse rotation is item 12....

dMITIj

11-30-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500189)

Can you plz post a link ore a picture of the right one to use?
Because mine is like the guy under this message.

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Originally Posted by trx450racer174 (Post 11500342)

Mine is like yours...

See	11-30-2012 12:43 PM

Mine also came with the cap without circuit board.

trx450racer174

11-30-2012 01:42 PM

I'm guessing this is what the correct one should look like. My buddy sent me this pic if his Cap.

Mine does not look like this one.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...F238EF84A7.jpg

Solara

11-30-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trx450racer174 (Post 11500342)

Yes, please contact the Chicago office and talk to ALBERT and he will send you a replacement CAP.

Solara

11-30-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 11500366)

in 1/8 electric, motor rotation reversing does take place at times, unless your diff cases allow you to flip there direction. (Hyper Star for one)

But thats why our SILVER ARROW 2 does allow motor rotation reverse....I am only saying on all of the 1/10th car, they SHOULD NOT need the motor rotation reversed...I have some customer asked me but I just cannot answer but I don't see there is a need there.

Solara

11-30-2012 01:48 PM

I will try to post a picture of the cap with the board...it is exactly like the one above...

For the temporary fix, please use the cap from GT2 series ESC that has the circuit board on them.

RCmayor

11-30-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Solara (Post 11500209)

The Orion Vortex 8 isn't V3 Hobbywing. I can see them getting it mixed up. I don't think HW even has V3 1/8 scale stuff yet.

Should have bought Speedpassion and saved a hundred bucks instead of paying the Orion Tax. lol

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