Speed Passion Thread
 

Please share any info or setups...
If anyone needs help or info please ask away...

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http://shop.speedpowerrc.com/
http://www.speedpassion.net/us/index.asp

Offroad setups can be found here as well as the latest setup templates.
http://www.speedpassion.net/us/escsetup.asp

Im glad too see an Off Road thread for Speed Passion electronics. I would like too see what everyone else is running and their setups. Im running a GT Pro Stock V2.1 ESC and a Epic DUO 3 17.5 in my SC10. 101212 stock software.
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23/87 gearing, 5 degrees on motor runs 150F after 5 min. Thanks too David Perez for setup help, Tom

I have been running 2wd Mod and 4wd mod for some time now. I also am getting my feet wet for the SCT. If you guys need help with the setups, I am here to help.:nod:

Thanx Tom
Here is my setup sheet for indoor clay track using 101212STK and 17.5 V3 in a SC truck. Truck was FAST...missed TQ by less than a sec., but that was more my fault. Set fastest lap in main.:D
Link to track with nice pics/videos to get an idea of size/layout.
http://crcrc.blogspot.com/
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SC Master combo
 

I posted this in a Speed Passion thread, but just realized it was on-road electric. Trying again here:

I just got the SC Master combo with 11.5T motor. The manual shows 4 settings for Running Mode, but when I connect the program box, only 3 are available.

1. Forward/brake no reverse works fine

2. Forward w/Reverse "double tap" method does not work. Motor jumps from forward to reverse with no delay at all, seems like a good way to tear up the gearbox.

3. Forward/Reverse with brake. This one works well for forward and brake, but there is a few second delay to get into reverse or from reverse to forward.

I'd like to have reverse, but #2 is too quick and #3 is too clunky. Any ideas?

I have an Airtronics MX-Sport and did have to use REV on the throttle channel to make it work at all.

Im running the GT V2.1 Pro Stock esc in my SC10. I noticed the first race day with this esc that my truck would come to a stop when applying the brakes more than 2 times. I changed my setup to forward and brake only and this never happened again. Reverse is only good during practice anyways.
Tom

did you make sure your radio EPA high and low is at 100% and no more??

might be part of your problems

let us know what radio your using too

Airtronics MX-Sport, EPA is 100% for both, no Expo or ABS. Only thing is I had to use REV. Manual says only for Futaba, but that's only way I could get it to work.

You racing or bashing? Do you have a type of program box that came with speedo to visually confirm that there are 4 modes?

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You could pick up this up also.
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...PESCPB02&c=OPT

thats weird......ill try and check my buddies mx and see how i set it up

sensor wire good?

I race, and I have that exact same program box. There are 4 running modes shown on the box, but only 3 show up when I connect to the ESC. Anyhow, I played with the ABS and some other settings and got it where it will work for me. Still don't know why setting 2 goes from full forward to full reverse, but I'll just avoid that one.

Now that I've got it dialed in a bit I really like this combo. Torquey as hell, and lots of options that are a snap to adjust.

Thanks for the help.

I think the sensor wire is good. After some messing around, I found that it will jump from reverse to forward once it has come to a complete stop. Still haven't got the exact timing down from brake to reverse. Also trying how to figure out if I can put some brake on in reverse to stop and get going again, but maybe that's just how it works.

I know, I know, you shouldn't need reverse, but I'm a novice, comes in handy sometimes.

Glad I found this. I put a GT 2.0 LPF in my B4 a couple weeks ago. Running 422 Stock software right now with a Nemesis 17.5. Haven't had a chance to hit the track with it yet, but after about 8 minutes of hard running in the street motor temps were right at 150, performance was awesome. Wondering if anyone has experience switching from 422 Stock to 528 Stock, and if there are significant improvements running the 528 software? Particularly in motor temp, ambient temps here will be mid-90's or higher in another month. I've already heard about the Nemesis losing power when it gets warm, so the cooler I can keep it the better. Will probably pick up a D3 17.5 or 13.5 when I can find one, but Nemesis is what I have for now, so really don't need any of the non-helpful Nemesis bashing BS I got in the on-road thread. It's actually an Open class so we're not limited on motor, but the track is tight and slick. I think Joor is running a 13.5 without full boost, that should tell you something LOL.

I've got the GT 2.0 LPF in my mod buggy and the PRO in my mod stadium truck and mod 4wd buggy. All have a v3.0 7.5 motor as well. All have run great for months now...if anyone has any questions on these kinds of setups I will do my best to help out. :nod:

Good too see some traffic on this thread. I recently installed a GT 2.0 lpf esc in my xxx cr buggy and ran for the first time last night. 35/78 gear 17.5 Ballistic motor. 101212 stock software and used the same settings as my SC. After 5 min. runs the motor and esc were barely warm and I had more than enough power.
Tom

Awesome. If you could, please post the settings for that class and speedo that you used. There are a few guys I know that woud like to compare, i'm sure.
Thanks!

Thanks David for creating this thread, and I know our equipment is very well performed in OFF ROAD class, please ask any question regarding our products and our drivers and myself will try our best to answer...

Thanks Mike K as well....

Albert Mui / Howard Lo (Speed Passion USA)

I used the same setup as David Perez posted on the first page. Beware that item no. 13 rpm delay might show different rpm numbers on LCD box with 212 stock software. Value 3 seems too work best for 17.5 motor on item 13 (rpm delay) I have too thank David Perez for starting this thread and helping me setup my SC10, and now my 2wd buggy Rocks as well!!!
Tom

SCTom, what's the FDR in your XXXCR with that gearing? Running 6.24 right now in my B4.

With 35/78 gearing I figured the fdr at 5.41. The 35 pin. was the biggest that would fit and worked ok with GTB (no timing) but the motor never temped over 100 degrees. So I left the gearing the same for my new setup and it seems too work well. Sorry for the bits and pieces of info. guys, I will try to post a complete setup sheet with motor temps. next week after I race.
Tom

Where is your physical timing set wth the Nemesis? I would start at the mid.
Have you tried 101212 stock? It's the latest and greatest.:cool: I would load that so that we all can compare notes.

With the supercharge function. These motors spin faster than lower turn motors. I would go down on your pinion...you will get crazy rip. Your fearing is good for nonboosted, but gear it like a mild mod for boost.

No prob.:cool:

im haviing a rather odd issue with a Speedpassion club spec esc ... it worked fine untill i got bumped and noticed that the wire to the reciver had broke off well i resoldered it and the ESC started running in reveres.... what would be the fault for this. only way i can get this to work proper is unplugg the sensor wire an swap A an C wires .. an it works fin just not Smooth like sensored ... any help would be cool if u have ideas

Timing on Nemesis is at 0deg, doing it all with speedo. using the charlie barnes 422 settings from the site, FDR is 6.24. Performance is great, just keeping an eye on heat because we are racing outdoors. Looks like guys running the new software are much cooler, even with lower FDR. may need to load it and see.

One more question. the only program box i have is hw. Can i load sp software with it from sp site, or would i have to load 212 stock from hw?

Yes you can use the HW LCD. Go to the link below and DL v1.35. Update your programmer and load 212.:batman:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...802PROcb&c=ESC

My first setup for venturing into the 2wd buggy stock is with speed passion.
Running gt pro stock v2.1 stock firmware and a v3 17.5t motor
Final drive is At 5.2 with 69 spur and 34 pinion.

Haven't had my first race day yet I hope everything goes smooth haha

The V2.1 comes with 528 stock. I just picked up another and that is what was on mine. I loaded 101212 right away.:sneaky:
Your gearing is way off. Good for non boost, but you need to gear like a mild mod. What buggy you running? I'd start maybe with a 76/78 spur depending on the tranny ratio and pinions in upper mid 20's. You could always start with the default settings which are pretty mild. Check temps every few laps.
You could try my setup from the first page and just adjust gearing for a buggy.

I will try some different gearing next week and let you know, but this thing is already crazy fast. Thanks David
Tom

At my club we can only run non boosted 17.5t in the stock class.
I'm running a tamiya trf201, also with the speed passion fan you get included with the esc. Do they suck down or push away?
Does the 528 software have the boosted function on it?

I see. Yes 528 has boost. You will have to DL no timing blinky mode. It's all in the V1.35. The fan sucks down. I ran zero timing with no fan this past winter in VTA w/17.5 without heat issues.
Did you eliminate the slipper to fit a 69 spur? I wouldn't run without one.

Download no timing blinky mode??
So when I'm running practice to learn throttle control. And running boosted
Should have a fdr of like 6 or 7?

Na im still running a slipper :)

Yeah, I would start 72/32-31ish. Watch temps. AE makes a 72t spur that allows you to keep your slipper. Blinky mode is basically zero timing (V1_508_NO timing) with the flashing LED as per ROAR rules.

My lcd has the most recent hw software on it. do i still need to download the sp software? It programs my sp speedo fine as is. Reason for asking is that i have hw speedo in my 4wd. Going to be a PITA if i have to change program box software every time i want to change software on one of the speedos. Thanks.

Yes you'll just have to load SP's V1.35 once onto the LCD. The HW speedo will work with SP software and vice versa. That way you can use SP software and come on here and share setup and support.:cool:

Thanks Dave. Couple more questions, hopefully the last for a bit. One, I read something in the Onraod thread a few weeks ago about having to flash software twice to either the box or speedo to get it to work. Is that correct?

Two, any recommendations on what SP software to flash to my HW speedo in 4wd buggy? XERun V2, 6.5 motor with 40C batteries. No boost or turbo needed ;)

You can flash the box or speedo twice. It won't hurt. I've never had to.
Use 205 mod.
As for questions...ask away. We're all here to help.:cool:

Dave, I use 528 mod for 2wd and 4wd buggy and 2wd stadium truck with the v3.0 7.5 motors. Have you tried it? what are the differences between the two? Do you prefer 205 for any particular reason?

Mike

528mod is a milder version of the 528stock. I've never tried it, but with 7.5 you pretty much have all the motor you want. I run 205 with 9.5 and lower. Anything lower than that your throttle finger is more important with especially when traction is low. Just be careful with settings and temps. If your having success than cool. Post some settings to share.
I recomend JP Richards setup off the site. Dude is wicked fast with buggy and truck using 205.
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/escsetup.asp

Agree JP has some great skills wheeling a rc car. I pretty much have all the timing and punch settings near the high end of the options. With mod it seems to not be as critical to be at setting 8 instead of 7 on something. Especially with the 7.5 The last setting is knocked back a little especially on the 4wd buggy to keep temps down a little. I think it is the SCPunch setting.
I usually run the 2wd cars with the epa down between 80 and 90 percent and adjust slipper and expo settings for track conditions. I like the added rip of the 7.5 to pull ahead of someone when battling out of a corner or where ever. A quick blip can put me back up front. It can be a handful as well though. :nod:
It has been months of using the equipment and I still have experimenting to do. I will post discoveries as I find them.

New software on the way!:cool:

Sorry if this is obvious, but I didn't see it on the Speed Passion website. Is the SC Master ESC firmware updateable? If so, which card do you need? The one that comes with it that was mentioned in this thread a few days ago, or the LCD one?

As an aside, last night in the novice class I took 1st place in both heats, and 2nd in the main (stupid mistakes cost me) with my new SP combo! Great bang for the buck.