Good job mrbirchum, tuesday night I qualified 4th and won the main for our 2wd open SCT club race when the leader broke. 8 trucks in the main, my Speed Passion setup was fast and flawless.
Tom

New software is not avail to public yet. Just team drivers. It is something a bit different in comparison to 212/528 in terms of parameters with more adjustment increments. I'm sure it will be posted on the site soon. Good things come to those who wait.

Unfortunatley the Short Course Master ESC is not updateable to the above softwares. You would have to upgrade to one of the GT series of speedos.

i use nothing but 205 in all my cars
xxxt-cr with 6.5 v3
xxx-cr with 8.5 v3
xxx-sct with 7.5 v3
custom built sprint car with 7.5 v2

i have an extra speedo that i use to test all the software updates
but the boost software just never feels right for me..as our track has like 60ft straight and it seems to always come on too late for my taste

we do have a large outdoor offroad that im going to load the newest SW in and go play.....so my feelings may change on booooooooooooost

New to SP offroad
 

Hey guys just picked up an LPF GT2.0 carbon esc for my new losi 22. I just didnt feel like spending 200+ on another brand and Ive heard great things about SP. Now can this version be upgraded in terms of software? And how many drive profiles does it have? Ive had the best luck with LRP in the past and Im hoping to have the same smoothness here. Plus the smaller footprint of this esc will be good because theres not much room under the shell on the car. very tight space.

Any other feedback is good to hear, Im new to the brand.

I have to drag JP to this thread more offen...

Same thing I have in my B4, and yes it's adjustable, and the software can be changed/upgraded. Which software is best depends on what application, what motor, track rules, etc. Not all of the software versions have boost/turbo, etc. but if you're running lots of motor you don't need it. Still learning myself, 1/10 flashlight has been so dead here the last 5 years or so that I was just running brushed stuff the couple times a year I actually raced 1/10. You'll love the feel of the SP. As smooth or smoother than the LRP QC's and GM's I used to run, and you can use the programming to change the feel to suit you.

Hey Guys,

JP checking in here. Please feel free to PM me or post on the forum any questions you might have.

My setups from the JC race that are on the website is a good starting point. You might want to turn the punch down a couple levels and the drag brake though, the track was SUPER high bite so all the punch and drag brake was manageable.

I will try and make a good overall track condition setup this weekend.

Thanks!!

I am running the 1212 stock software and I was wondering what a good starting point was on the esc settings and gear ratio for an AE T4 with a Novak Velociti 13.5. The track is indoor, med to high bite, lap times in the 17 second range. Timing is allowed.

Thanks,
Ifuonlyknew

You could start with the default settings. They seem to be middle of the road.
I would start at
9-8
12-7
13-3
14-5
15-2
Those settings are bit dialed down from what I used with SP17.5 v3. I swore I read somewhere the Novaks have alot of physical timing out the factory. So you may want to dail some back.
Maybe somene else can add to this.
Gearing 84/22-21?
Keep eye on motor temps.:tire:

It doesn’t have overall profiles in the sense that I think you asking about, rather several parameters that can be adjusted independently. Lots of adjustability for sure.

Yes, you can change software/firmware, you do need the optional LCD programmer:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...=SPLCD01&c=OPT

The latest V1.35 firmware package is under the download tab:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...02PROscb&c=ESC

Note there is a mod version of the boost software, and a no timing (aka blinky) version too in there.

Video on updating (it’s the last one):

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/video.asp

Many load it twice just to be sure, there have been reports of it not updating correctly/completely on the first pass, although that issue may be fixed, I’m not sure.

Redo the ESC to radio calibration after changing software. And then after turn up the throttle EPA some, there have been cases of radio drift causing the supercharger deal to not engage, it needs full throttle to be completely open and held.

Some setups:

http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...02PROscb&c=ESC

Yeah, the ‘stock’ boost firmware isn’t really intended for those motors. Have you tried the mod boost? (528mod if I remember) Did you gear down any when you tried boost (either one)?

Hi everyone, I'm stoked I found this thread.... I just recently bought the Speed Passion Silver Arrow 1/8 V2.0 ESC and Cirtix 2200kv Brushless motor combo for my RC8..... I'm new to the electric scene (started off with nitro) so I was wondering what is a good setup for this and what kind of gearing should I use?

Also is the esc upgradeable and what all do I need to do so? Any tips or info. etc would be greatly appreciated... Thanks

In the future, you can always check out Speed Passion website for ESC setup. I will upload some SAII ESC setup this weekend and post it up there...

ESC is updatable, once we have the need for better software, we will release it to the public free of charge. But you do need the LCD Programmer box to connect the ESC to computer in order to do adjustment and future software/firmware update.

http://www.speedpassion.net/us/produ...=SPLCD01&c=OPT

Here is our driver setup for SAII with 2200 slotless motor on Losi 8ight II

Final drive = 11.3 to 11.8
Fan on motor if possible.
Speed Power 4S Lipo

Running Mode: Forward with brake (always recommand use mechanical braking with braking servo)
Drag Brake Force: 0% (or 5% the most)
Lipo cut off: 3.0V per Cell
DRRS: Level 5
Max Brake Force: 75%
Max Reverse Force: 25%
Initial Brake Force: 0%
Neutral Range: 6%
AMTS Timing: 0*
Overheat protection: Disable
Motor rotation: CCW (depends on your car too)
Lipo cells: Auto Calculate

Let us know the result....thanks and good luck.

When I mess with boost I run either 10.5 or 13.5
Have 528mod loaded in one of my speedos but have not been able to get to a track and try it.....when I tried boost I geared way down....and added boost and gear to try to get the feel I'm lookin for........its nice to have a private test day at the track

Thanks for the reply, I will def. try that setup and be on the lookout for the SAII setups on the site...

Just a few other questions, the mechanical braking servo I never heard of (sorry for the ignorance), have a link of ones your talking about?

And is there a benefit to disabling the motor heat detection? I would love to put a fan on my motor but I am using the tekno conversion and the way the motor mount is setup I am unable to do so, is it a must to add the fan?

And as far as the lcd program box it looks like you guys are out of stock, do you know when you'll possible have them back in stock? Thanks

Im not messing with any software when I install it. Im just going to run it as is for now. I know its got adjustability but Im hoping the throttle response is smooth as its going into a 2wd buggy, and smoothness is everything on those vehicles

Mechanical brakes like a nitro has. Instead of using the ESC and motor to provide the brakes like a typical electric RC does. Reduces the load and heat on both.

hey guys ...
just curious if thier is any way of getting a stock club spec esc to stop working in reveres? atm im running it sensorless so i can swap wires an it has a slight cog ... any ideas ... on how to swap it ?

Rob Landers

Oh ok lol , yeah that makes alot of sense, damn and I just took all the parts off my rc8 for the mechanical brakes.. Its ok I'll put them back on...

Rob
Do you have the program card? If so hook it up and under programmable value #2 which is Running mode. Select option #1 Forward w/brake (no reverse").
Why are you running sensorless? No advantage there.
Manual is below.
http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...ay27th2010.pdf

I've been running the 528mod software all season on high bite clay with the SC boost function on most of the higher settings. This is with 2wd buggy geared 23/78 and 4wd buggy geared 23/78. Both with a 7.5 motor. The delay is set to 4000 rpm and the full throttle delay has been off. The last setting has been at -3 I think. I'm going to play with those settings a little more now that it's about in between indoor and outdoor season. I'll post findings. Motors are usually less than 130 degrees and speedos under 120 (usually way under).

This is rather off topic, but has anyone with a Cirtix Stock esc had a red LED flashing constantly? The red LED indicates that there is low voltage even though I have a fully charged LiPo hooked up.

I read somewhere that unplugging the sensor wire from the motor while the car was on and putting the wire back in would fix the problem. It hasn't.

Does anyone have a clue on how to fix this?

ttt

see this would work but the only options that the club spec has is 1# brake .. 2 Drage brake 3 thermo
no option of running mode ... :confused:
so any idea how i could get this switched and running i sensorless is the only way i can get the motors to go the right way its like the esc switched revered some how ..
Rob

Ygpm

Cirtix CLUB SPEC esc has red blinking lights on all the time is not because of low-voltage of the lipo, that red blinking light is ROAR required for club spec ESC to have that on to indicate you are running the approved sportsman SOFTWARE from your ESC...it is a indication for the SPEC to know you are running LEGAL SOFTWARE.

Our Short Course Master...is the same footprint ESC as the club spec, DOES NOT have that red blinking...we had spot some ppl used that ESC and put up the club spec decal on top and tried to cheat because short course master has 26.25* timing to add on MAX...obviously, that person got caught cheating immediately by show no red blinking light when he is on tech.

Does your ESC working properly..? You don't need to do anything...that red light will blink no matter how you do it....as long as you are running the CLUB SPEC ESC.

I flashed mod firmware with no timing for last nites race. I have never used mod firmware before as i have only run 13.5 since i switched to brushless.

I ran a lrp 10.5 and 9.5 in my durango and found that both sort of shuttered at low rpm and seemed to have a power-band to them. Off the ground giving throttle i would get a gradual acceleration and then a noticeable kick in rpm change around mid throttle. Does this sound like a bad flash? Or possibly a sensor wire issue. Temperatures where fine and i ran the night with 9.5 without much issue other then the low rpm lag shutter and that strange power-band effect. Almost as if it had timing of variable timing which it did not.

(side not the week before i had be having thermal-ling issues with the 10.5 running stock software) I wont discount the possibility of Esc issues but it did its job last nite under temp and without issues..

Ideas?

thanks in advance..

Yes, that does sound like a bad sensor wire to me. I would try a new sensor wire.

Thanks,

BINGO! sensor wire fixed it! Man more power too! LOL

Thanks i did not have a wire with me at the track last nite. Just did a bench test. its A- OK

Sweet!!

*&^$@#*&! Loaded 205Mod into my B44 and 212Stock into my B4, ready to hit the track. Heard from Cristian, both Tabushes are coming, Jorge and I have had a blast running 2wd SC last few times out. Joor is coming, Smiley Henn, going to be a great crowd for a club race. And then my parents call and decide they're coming tomorrow morning, not evening. My wife's blood pressure goes up and I'm stuck here doing stuff around the house LOL. And I'm running 1/8 nitro next weekend so I guess it will be a bit before I get to test the new software. :cry:

Now that the pity part is over, does anyone have settings for 17.5 running the 212 software in 2wd buggy? Trinity Nemesis 17.5, FDR 6.24 right now, track is tight, dusty and slick. Just looking for a baseline, and I didn't see anything for the 212 on the website. Both of the tracks we run 1/10 on here are outdoors, and we're already in the 90's, 100 deg days just around the corner. And of course Houston humidity, so anything I can do to keep motor temps down and still have good rip is a plus.

Hey cjtamu, Im running 212 software with a Novak 17.5 in my 2wd xxx cr buggy. My esc settings are the same as David Perez has posted on page 1 of this thread. Last week I played around with gearing and ended up with 30/78 and that felt good on bottom and top end. I tried gearing it lower but had a hard time clearing some jumps on a tight track. Motor temps never went over 110F.
Tom

Thanks Tom. Pretty close to what i guessed at, other than i have a lower value for 14 and a little higher for 15. hoping i can convince my wife to let me take my youngest daughter, my niece, and my granddaughter to the track for a bit tomorrow ha ha ha.

At least got to test the 212Stock in the street yesterday. Ran great, don't think this Nemesis is going to stay under 150 deg, just seems to be where it wants to run. See what it does on track. Couple questions. One, my LCD box shows this:

1-Running Mode
2- Drag Brake
6-Voltage Protect
7- DRRS Punch
3- Brake Force
1- Reverse Force
1- Initial Brake
1- Neutral Range
8- AMTS Timing
1- Overheat Protect
9- SC Boost Level
5- SC RPM Delay
5- Full Throttle Delay
2- SC Punch
Restore Default

Ha ha ha! Anyone else have a numbering system like that? Those aren't my settings, those are the way the item nos. show LOL.

My SC RPM Delay shows 4,000 to start rather than 1,800 and my SC punch also shows "Max", "-1", "-2", etc. rather than 100, 200, etc. I assume that's what they're addressing in the pdf addendum that I got when I unzipped the V1.35 software for the LCD box?

Yep, my LCD box reads the same. Its like the 212 software and the LCD doesnt agree. Thats ok as long as you know what it means.
Tom

we have 323 software coming and should be release soon......this week or so.

Also release is the 119_mod software for modified motor with Supercharger...

It's awesome...:cool::sneaky:

Quick question for the SP guys. I have an SP GT 2.0 Pro that I got last year, and I ran it in my touring car with a 4.5. Now that I'm sticking to offroad, I am hoping to run this in my new Losi 22 buggy, but it of course doesn't fit under the body with the fan. My question is, can I run this speedo without the built-in fan running a 7.5 turn x12? No fan is the only way this speedo will fit in this car.

Yeah ditch the fan and cut out the vent on top of the body. That's how my GT2.1 is mounted.

with a 7.5?