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srv 07-03-2011 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by SC_RAGE (Post 9339348)
They shipped on friday. Im in chico this weekend and next week. If you guys need support I can try to help between rounds and after the race.

To avoid confusion and misunderstanding, our warehouse will send out USPS tracking number if they made a shipment that day. If you did not receive one, it was most probably we run out of inventory of the replacement item. Therefore, please check your e-mail box (if you provided it with your RMA case) to get updates. :nod:

jdegraff57z 07-03-2011 11:30 AM

I can't wait 'til the VTX8 comes out. I'm running an un-sensored motor in my TT and my MMP died again. This'll be the second time it's gone out for repair/replace, and my Sidewinder has also been replaced with an SV2. I'd like a better option for un-sensored. 'Bout ready to give up on Castle completely.

EricJ 07-03-2011 06:05 PM

I have some questions (probably stupid) for the Viper folks:
- At a given can temp, is the rotor temp higher or lower? Is there a rule of thumb for a rotor to can temp differential? So-far, if the can is any indicator of rotor temp, this motor seems to run quite cold.
- Is it just me, or do your motors have way more torque and a far wider power band than other motors of the same size?

jdegraff57z 07-03-2011 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by EricJ (Post 9341151)
I have some questions (probably stupid) for the Viper folks:
- At a given can temp, is the rotor temp higher or lower? Is there a rule of thumb for a rotor to can temp differential? So-far, if the can is any indicator of rotor temp, this motor seems to run quite cold.
- Is it just me, or do your motors have way more torque and a far wider power band than other motors of the same size?

Hey Eric,
I'm only going by previous comments (as I've only run Viper sensored motors), but they're much more torque based than comparable motors. You tend to have to gear up a couple of teeth to get comparable speed out of them, yet you retain the torque and smoothness. 'Fraid I can't answer your other question(s).

Are you currently running Viper? If you wanna' check out a VTX10 / VTS set-up, look for the cars in my avatar pic at SDRC Raceway in San Diego ;) I'm usually there all day on Wednesdays for Wednesday Night Worlds™.

Jesse

nikos2002 07-03-2011 08:45 PM

Eric,
-Yes, the rotor temp is going to be higher than what you may read with a temp gun on the outside of the can. The difference can vary depending on gearing and type of chassis being used.
-Yes again, our motors are torque based and do develop quite the punch, but have a great power curve to be able to control it.

EricJ 07-04-2011 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by jdegraff57z (Post 9341722)
Hey Eric,
I'm only going by previous comments (as I've only run Viper sensored motors), but they're much more torque based than comparable motors. You tend to have to gear up a couple of teeth to get comparable speed out of them, yet you retain the torque and smoothness. 'Fraid I can't answer your other question(s).

Are you currently running Viper? If you wanna' check out a VTX10 / VTS set-up, look for the cars in my avatar pic at SDRC Raceway in San Diego ;) I'm usually there all day on Wednesdays for Wednesday Night Worlds™.

Jesse

Yes, I have their 17.5 in my SC. I've just been worried about the fact I don't know what the rotor temp is, and I don't want to shorten it's life. So far, I've been extremely happy with the motor, so I obviously don't want to kill it, and the way I've been gearing it would easily overheat many motors... I plan to be there on Wednesday, too.


Originally Posted by nikos2002 (Post 9341739)
Eric,
-Yes, the rotor temp is going to be higher than what you may read with a temp gun on the outside of the can. The difference can vary depending on gearing and type of chassis being used.
-Yes again, our motors are torque based and do develop quite the punch, but have a great power curve to be able to control it.

What can temp should I be aiming to stay below for safety? In this case, it's in an SC10. I've been seeing a plateau of sorts where with any of four consecutive pinions it comes off in the 140-145 range (indoors), but below this range it drops about 15 degrees per tooth (drop three from the low end of this range and it's right around 100). Stranger-still, the last main I ran she came off at 127 while running one of these higher-range pinions (33:75). Obviously, these are all can temps...

Cult Racing 07-04-2011 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by SC_RAGE (Post 9339348)
They shipped on friday. Im in chico this weekend and next week. If you guys need support I can try to help between rounds and after the race.

alright cool, im not sure if mine were sent out because i didnt get a tracking deal but if they were thanks again for all the help!

Cult Racing 07-05-2011 04:16 PM

got my motor today and looks sweet, just waiting on my esc's and then head to the track!

http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMAG0001-1.jpg

Brian Alderman 07-05-2011 09:04 PM

Got my 13.5 all set up in my 4.1 and it seems like it will be a runner! It did take a while to get some power out of it though, seems these motors like alot of timing on the MMP at least.

bring it on 07-05-2011 10:07 PM

Well, It was a long weekend at the 2011 Jconcepts indoor summer nats. My Viper 2050kv motor ran great. Never got over 140. It was 101 outside and about 84 inside. I took 2nd place.

http://www.outbackraceway.com/index/...ate/07-03-2011



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http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...7809876231.png

SC_RAGE 07-06-2011 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Cult Racing (Post 9349210)
got my motor today and looks sweet, just waiting on my esc's and then head to the track!

http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMAG0001-1.jpg

When you get it be sure to scope the settings I posted earlier in the thread.

Cult Racing 07-07-2011 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by SC_RAGE (Post 9355718)
When you get it be sure to scope the settings I posted earlier in the thread.

I will forsure, how did you guys do at the hotrod race

Shirk 07-07-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Cult Racing (Post 9357591)
I will forsure, how did you guys do at the hotrod race

The hotrod race is this weekend, Jconcepts race was last weekend...

Cult Racing 07-07-2011 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Shirk (Post 9357632)
The hotrod race is this weekend, Jconcepts race was last weekend...

Oh lol thanks, did you happen to mail the escs out rage?

ghoppa 07-07-2011 04:00 PM

ready to go this weekend!!!
 
Weylin,
my Viper goods arrived and are all ready to go!!! Thanks for getting my order out as soon as you did.:sneaky:

21.5 F1 Race is Saturday in California and 10th 2wd and 4wd Buggy race is Sunday back in town!!

update you on Monday!!!


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