Viper RC -
#1756
You guys are making me nervous here now.....what esc model do you guys run?
I'm about to order the Viper stuff....down here in Texas it is HOT already.
It's gonna be tough for any esc/motor here in summer.
I'm about to order the Viper stuff....down here in Texas it is HOT already.
It's gonna be tough for any esc/motor here in summer.
#1757
Unfortunately some esc's from the first two production batches had stability issues as some of you have experienced. We have addressed the cause of the issues and everything coming out of the factory now will be much more reliable.
#1758
62/12 i am using the stock profile 1 no boost or timing on motor. Throttle EPA i tried was between 70 and 90 to see if that would help. No go. I am ready to send her back in in hopes that it is just something wrong with this one but dont want to if i dont have to.
THanks the help.
JT
THanks the help.
JT
#1759
I had my ESC on profile 4 for boosted 17.5
I was playing with setting due to low traction. How do I go back to full factory 17.5 boost settings?
Anyone have a good powerful 17.5 setup as well for 2wd medium traction buggy? Need it to be real smooth but scream on top more some long straights and large jumps.
Thanks
I was playing with setting due to low traction. How do I go back to full factory 17.5 boost settings?
Anyone have a good powerful 17.5 setup as well for 2wd medium traction buggy? Need it to be real smooth but scream on top more some long straights and large jumps.
Thanks
Acc boost:
4500-12,500rpm @ 20* max adv timing
top speed timing:
3*/1000rpm @ 35* max adv timing
throttle:
5000hz
100% punch
linear curve
narrow deadband
I have the 10r and am having some heating issues, is there a certain profile that you guys are using with the sc 4x4's to make sure it doesnt thermal and shut down? My set up is:
lrp x12L 4.5 that never temps more than 175. 12t pinion on 62 tooth spur. the esc is like 180-190 on the case when i get it back in the pits and temp. I think shut down is like 220 internal on these. Is that normal. What have you guys been getting temp wise?
thanks JT
lrp x12L 4.5 that never temps more than 175. 12t pinion on 62 tooth spur. the esc is like 180-190 on the case when i get it back in the pits and temp. I think shut down is like 220 internal on these. Is that normal. What have you guys been getting temp wise?
thanks JT
180-190 is pretty high, though I have seen a +/-20* range using 3 different temp guns on the same component... Try using a different temp gun, because if it's measuring 190* case temp it should probably be hitting thermal cutoff.
In terms of actually dropping the esc temp try a lower throttle and brake pwm frequency. What sort of air/track conditions are you running in?
Did some testing today with my 10R in my SCT, had a bit of an issue... Motor is a 550 Trinity D3 Monster 4.5t... My issue was I can't seem to hit full throttle with out it cutting out.. There is a long back straight I was feeding it slow to top speed then when it got to full throttle it would cut out, any ideas? My guess is it has something to do with the Throttle PW frequency that I set at 2000mhz but just realized now I should have changed it back... Oh and the esc was at about 140-150 and the motor was 120-130.. My esc's in the past have never gotten that warm...?
Also running a 2s battery!! Profile #1 Spec offroad/no boost
Also running a 2s battery!! Profile #1 Spec offroad/no boostWhat sort of air and track conditions? Did you confirm the esc/motor temp with another temp gun? You won't see thermal cutoff at 150* case temp if it's set to 230*, that's too much of a split. But you're measurement isn't the issue here, the issue is hitting thermal cutoff. Give us your settings/setup or perhaps even a photo of your setup so we can try and troubleshoot a bit farther.
#1763
Been running the buggy 1800 in my TQ buggy, 18/46 gearing with 27* of timing on an RX8. Ran all day Saturday without a hitch, started at 17/46, and it was pretty quick, coming off after 10 minutes at about 150*. I needed a hair more power so i just bumped up one on the pinion. Motor got a little bit warmer (180*) after 10 minutes, but wasa running great and did not get soft. After qualifying for the day, I went out for some extended practice. I ran for about 20 minutes straight, and temped the can at 195. Not bad for 20 minutes of race pace practice. it never got soft either. I am running 2 2s Speedzone 5700 50C packs, Tekin RX8. After 20 minutes, i put 4000mah back in the batteries, so the motor/speedo seem to be pretty efficient.
Also have been doing a bit of testing with my 550 5.5 in an SC10 4x4. Back to back against a Tekin 550 5.5, this motor is hands down faster and stronger. The Viper would clear our huge double in Topeka, while the Tekin would not. The tekin was also thermaling my VTX10R. The Viper was not. It was warm, but not hot like the Tekin motor.
Also have been doing a bit of testing with my 550 5.5 in an SC10 4x4. Back to back against a Tekin 550 5.5, this motor is hands down faster and stronger. The Viper would clear our huge double in Topeka, while the Tekin would not. The tekin was also thermaling my VTX10R. The Viper was not. It was warm, but not hot like the Tekin motor.
#1764
Been running the buggy 1800 in my TQ buggy, 18/46 gearing with 27* of timing on an RX8. Ran all day Saturday without a hitch, started at 17/46, and it was pretty quick, coming off after 10 minutes at about 150*. I needed a hair more power so i just bumped up one on the pinion. Motor got a little bit warmer (180*) after 10 minutes, but wasa running great and did not get soft. After qualifying for the day, I went out for some extended practice. I ran for about 20 minutes straight, and temped the can at 195. Not bad for 20 minutes of race pace practice. it never got soft either. I am running 2 2s Speedzone 5700 50C packs, Tekin RX8. After 20 minutes, i put 4000mah back in the batteries, so the motor/speedo seem to be pretty efficient.
Also have been doing a bit of testing with my 550 5.5 in an SC10 4x4. Back to back against a Tekin 550 5.5, this motor is hands down faster and stronger. The Viper would clear our huge double in Topeka, while the Tekin would not. The tekin was also thermaling my VTX10R. The Viper was not. It was warm, but not hot like the Tekin motor.
Also have been doing a bit of testing with my 550 5.5 in an SC10 4x4. Back to back against a Tekin 550 5.5, this motor is hands down faster and stronger. The Viper would clear our huge double in Topeka, while the Tekin would not. The tekin was also thermaling my VTX10R. The Viper was not. It was warm, but not hot like the Tekin motor.
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There's about a 50* split between the internal thermal cutoff temp and exterior case temp. 220* cutoff should usually cut motor power around 170-180* case temp. In the 4x4 trucks it's common to see them around 140-160, same with mod tc.
180-190 is pretty high, though I have seen a +/-20* range using 3 different temp guns on the same component... Try using a different temp gun, because if it's measuring 190* case temp it should probably be hitting thermal cutoff.
In terms of actually dropping the esc temp try a lower throttle and brake pwm frequency. What sort of air/track conditions are you running in?
Check your solder connections to make sure there are no bad joints. Check your motor sensor and sensor wire as well, perhaps try a different motor first since that's usually easier than trying a different esc. You need to start troubleshooting your setup at this point. For a 4.5t 550 you'll probably want the drive pwm frequency between 4000-9600hz. That esc temp however is not a concern with the heavy truck and big motor, pretty much where you'd expect to see it.
What sort of air and track conditions? Did you confirm the esc/motor temp with another temp gun? You won't see thermal cutoff at 150* case temp if it's set to 230*, that's too much of a split. But you're measurement isn't the issue here, the issue is hitting thermal cutoff. Give us your settings/setup or perhaps even a photo of your setup so we can try and troubleshoot a bit farther.
180-190 is pretty high, though I have seen a +/-20* range using 3 different temp guns on the same component... Try using a different temp gun, because if it's measuring 190* case temp it should probably be hitting thermal cutoff.
In terms of actually dropping the esc temp try a lower throttle and brake pwm frequency. What sort of air/track conditions are you running in?
Check your solder connections to make sure there are no bad joints. Check your motor sensor and sensor wire as well, perhaps try a different motor first since that's usually easier than trying a different esc. You need to start troubleshooting your setup at this point. For a 4.5t 550 you'll probably want the drive pwm frequency between 4000-9600hz. That esc temp however is not a concern with the heavy truck and big motor, pretty much where you'd expect to see it.
What sort of air and track conditions? Did you confirm the esc/motor temp with another temp gun? You won't see thermal cutoff at 150* case temp if it's set to 230*, that's too much of a split. But you're measurement isn't the issue here, the issue is hitting thermal cutoff. Give us your settings/setup or perhaps even a photo of your setup so we can try and troubleshoot a bit farther.


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