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Old 08-10-2017 | 03:03 AM
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I agree with what was said above.
I think Novarossi World is understanding the Market because 90% maybe of what they sell and for leisure.
The person who will simply walk only at the weekend, will not buy a motor of 400 euros, just to walk at the weekend.
Will see engines up to a maximum of 300 € I say, and Novarossi between the 100 € until
At 300 € or 350 € there are many good engines to choose from.

But I can say the Novarossi is not that fast with an O.S Speed OK. But it cost me less € 200.
Then in durability Novarossi is well ahead of the others.

Is that a Euro-World OK engine good for the Mark but the engine that won the Euro or the World is the same one we bought in the Store? I say no.
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Old 08-10-2017 | 03:51 AM
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Why do people keep repeating 'novarossi is not as fast as o.s. speed'?

Are you guys drag racing in parking lots or something? Where exactly on a race track is a nova not as fast as a speed?

As someone who races with both os and nova sometimes on the same day, i can say there is no discernable disadvantage to either. do they feel different to drive? Yes. Do they sound different? Yes. Does the os have a magical aura due to the insane price? Maybe. Am i any slower with a novarossi? NO!
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Old 08-10-2017 | 05:40 AM
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hmnnnn are you selling?
Maybe. The last time I tried selling it, all I got was $100 lowball offers. So I quit trying to sell it. If the price is right, I might sell it.
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Old 08-10-2017 | 08:43 AM
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Because Novarossi has many offroad models, all with theit price you might say the performance comes with the price. You are only willing to pay less then you do accept a less performance. It does not have to be bad in your total performance but it is as it is.
OS just has 2 or 3 models beside a clubracer and thats it!

I am also a cheap racer so I learned myself how to speed up the engines to go fast on a tight budget.
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Old 08-10-2017 | 11:53 AM
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So I'm looking to either get one of the new Novas out but not sure which one, mantra or rolling, it's going in a buggy if that helps, I know ones a 5 port square stroke and the other is a 7 port long stroke, hummmm what do you guys think? I like a smooth engine but one with enough power to pop a jump out of a corner with a short run up
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Old 08-10-2017 | 08:18 PM
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Looking for a Mito 4 rear bearing where is the best place to buy and how much will it cost ? Thanks
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Old 08-10-2017 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TRUGGYRACER1
So I'm looking to either get one of the new Novas out but not sure which one, mantra or rolling, it's going in a buggy if that helps, I know ones a 5 port square stroke and the other is a 7 port long stroke, hummmm what do you guys think? I like a smooth engine but one with enough power to pop a jump out of a corner with a short run up
The Rolling is more suited to Truggy, but it depends on you, the track, and how you drive. Personally I would go with a Mantra for Buggy out of those 2. I am putting a Rolling into my 8t 4.0, I have been running a Roma, and I just got a Mito 7 ceramic tuned engine that I am breaking in this weekend. I am pretty sure the Rolling is going to be replacing the Mito 7 and Vir-tus, since both have been discontinued
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Old 08-11-2017 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage
What does "popularity" mean? Can go two ways:'one, popularity for watching and paying attention to "pros", and paying 400 bucks per engine. Or two, popularity for ordinary racers, now able to buy good engines from novarossidirect for much, much cheaper. I'll take the second any day of the week over the first. I couldn't care less about "pro" toy car racers and what they do or what they run or anything else… Give me good quality affordable engines, and that seems to be what NR is concentrating on now. And good on them for it…

I don't care how good a Speed is. I'm not paying $400+ for an engine. And now especially not that NR is affordable.
Popularity, As in % of racers that was running them at the 2017 European Championships. My question has nothing to do with back yard bashers or ordinary racers . The reason I asked was because novarossi had such a very low showing in such a big race that I was wondering why the European racers not running them.
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Old 08-11-2017 | 08:29 AM
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The discussion about "ordinary racers" was part of the answer to your question, which is that NR seems more focused on precisely those normal RC'ers, and not (over-) paying a bunch of superfluous "pro" toy car drivers.

And good on them for it.

I just browsed the novadirect website today, and there are some awfully appealing offers there. And THAT, IMO, is what counts. Not what some pro is running...

So yeah.. "Popularity" seems to have changed meaning for NR. And IMO anyway that's a good thing.

Changing topic slightly, is the Elite 8 all that much more powerful than the Paloma gold-head? I have more engines than any person needs, but I'm a sucker for a deal... Especially at that kind of price. Those novadirect prices are flat-out awesome... One of the few very positive developments in the hobby I've seen in years..
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Old 08-11-2017 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage
The discussion about "ordinary racers" was part of the answer to your question, which is that NR seems more focused on precisely those normal RC'ers, and not (over-) paying a bunch of superfluous "pro" toy car drivers.

And good on them for it.

I just browsed the novadirect website today, and there are some awfully appealing offers there. And THAT, IMO, is what counts. Not what some pro is running...

So yeah.. "Popularity" seems to have changed meaning for NR. And IMO anyway that's a good thing.

Changing topic slightly, is the Elite 8 all that much more powerful than the Paloma gold-head? I have more engines than any person needs, but I'm a sucker for a deal... Especially at that kind of price. Those novadirect prices are flat-out awesome... One of the few very positive developments in the hobby I've seen in years..
They only seem to be making the car/truck/buggy engines more affordable. The marine engines are still significantly more expensive than their buggy counterparts. The Bonito buggy engine is $219 at Nova direct and the Bonito marine is $425 at Novarossi Marine US. Besides the obvious differences, I'd like to know what makes the marine engine so much more special to demand such a price difference. I have a mono hull boat that has an ancient OS .21 marine in it and the current engine offerings for marine inboards are virtually nil.
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Old 08-11-2017 | 09:01 AM
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Sometimes I wonder what Novarossi is doing.....
NOVAROSSI EXAGON .21 - ON ROAD + EXHAUST KIT

This 149 euro onroad racing engine is not listed on the Nova site, it has 7 ports and a multi exhaust port and it is much cheaper compared with the 200 euro Novarossi Brave which has 5 ports and just 1 exhaust port.

To me it looks like from time to time they have a left over stock of parts and they put it together, give it a name and dump it on the market.
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Old 08-11-2017 | 09:12 AM
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It's just my opinion, but afaic the racing scene has been adversely affected over the years by all this pressure to buy the highest high end stuff, what the racers run, etc. Car racing has gotten WAY too expensive, and therefore exclusive. It may be too late for nitro, but if the days of "you have to have a $400+ engine" are coming to an end, then that's simply great. I don't know if NR saw some kind of writing on the wall(I.e. that that approach was not sustainable..)but if the change in philosophy to focus less on pros and more on ordinary racers is indeed their policy, well that's the coolest thing ever IMO.

Not sure what the boat side of things is like. But I think a change of the sort we've seen with NR in the car world has been an extremely welcome development. I even think it would be cool to see it taken further and for example have local series' just using Elite 5's or something… I know that's not realistic and won't happen, but I think racing needs more of that kind of simplifying (and democratizing..) approach.. Just my very random 2c..
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Old 08-11-2017 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Sometimes I wonder what Novarossi is doing.....
NOVAROSSI EXAGON .21 - ON ROAD + EXHAUST KIT

This 149 euro onroad racing engine is not listed on the Nova site, it has 7 ports and a multi exhaust port and it is much cheaper compared with the 200 euro Novarossi Brave which has 5 ports and just 1 exhaust port.

To me it looks like from time to time they have a left over stock of parts and they put it together, give it a name and dump it on the market.
Thats exactly what novarossi does.
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Old 08-11-2017 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage
It's just my opinion, but afaic the racing scene has been adversely affected over the years by all this pressure to buy the highest high end stuff, what the racers run, etc. Car racing has gotten WAY too expensive, and therefore exclusive. It may be too late for nitro, but if the days of "you have to have a $400+ engine" are coming to an end, then that's simply great. I don't know if NR saw some kind of writing on the wall(I.e. that that approach was not sustainable..)but if the change in philosophy to focus less on pros and more on ordinary racers is indeed their policy, well that's the coolest thing ever IMO.

Not sure what the boat side of things is like. But I think a change of the sort we've seen with NR in the car world has been an extremely welcome development. I even think it would be cool to see it taken further and for example have local series' just using Elite 5's or something… I know that's not realistic and won't happen, but I think racing needs more of that kind of simplifying (and democratizing..) approach.. Just my very random 2c..
How about building smaller tracks and lower drivers stands? A shorter, tighter track may work to weed out the need for a high end engine. A small, tight track does not need a tall drivers stand. I can remember the day when a local off-road track could support both 1/10 and 1/8 nitro. In the same program. Perhaps this is one consideration to addressing the spiraling costs of nitro racing?

Here in Texas, 1/8 nitro is in a slump. One reason, I feel, is partly because it is "felt" a huge, covered track is the only thing racers will come out for. Perhaps I am wrong about this, but support is minimal, so I think any prospective track builders are intimidated by the need to compete with the really big tracks in this area by building same.

Back on thread topic, sort-of. I have two Nova engines. Both entry level 'Life' series. I love 'em and used to wring the snot out of them. Back when I felt an obligation to run. Kept the nitro percentage low, oil mix high and mixture rich. I'd race 'em on a short tight track anytime. Big tracks around here, no way they'd last.

For your consideration and comment. Cheers. 'AC'
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Old 08-11-2017 | 06:30 PM
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I have a question about Pre Runs (nova) I got a "Rolling" (Prerun). I how many quarts or tanks do I need to run through my engine before I can Lean it out?

I have never got a pre runs before.
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