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Werks 02-01-2017 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by TZ (Post 14815587)
my werks didnt last 3 gallons before the bottom of case split

Just noticed this post. Our engines are not really known for having cases that split. I've seen engine mount tabs break a couple of times over the years due to chassis flex like if a car is lawn darted but that's about it. Can you give me som detail on exactly what happened?

Maximo 02-01-2017 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 14823550)
Just noticed this post. Our engines are not really known for having cases that split. I've seen engine mount tabs break a couple of times over the years due to chassis flex like if a car is lawn darted but that's about it. Can you give me som detail on exactly what happened?

Short of stuffing the case with C4 I am not sure you could crack one LOL.... :)

TZ 02-02-2017 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 14823550)
Just noticed this post. Our engines are not really known for having cases that split. I've seen engine mount tabs break a couple of times over the years due to chassis flex like if a car is lawn darted but that's about it. Can you give me som detail on exactly what happened?

Sure, give me a little bit to put a picture up.
It split parallel with crank on very bottom of crankcase.
about an inch long.
engine ran great and really liked the powerband of the B6
I have read about one other doing the same thing.
This isn't my first rodeo guys, Been doing this since the early 90's
would rather be out on the track or in the the garage instead of trying to build post count!
I understand the Manufactures Rep. required to be on and answer questions.
Most of us come on hear to read about others experiences, and share their own so we can all learn and enjoy this Hobby. Not be prejudged by others who do not have a clue what happened.

Maximo 02-02-2017 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by TZ (Post 14823905)
Sure, give me a little bit to put a picture up.
It split parallel with crank on very bottom of crankcase.
about an inch long.
engine ran great and really liked the powerband of the B6
I have read about one other doing the same thing.
This isn't my first rodeo guys, Been doing this since the early 90's
would rather be out on the track or in the the garage instead of trying to build post count!
I understand the Manufactures Rep. required to be on and answer questions.
Most of us come on hear to read about others experiences, and share their own so we can all learn and enjoy this Hobby. Not be prejudged by others who do not have a clue what happened.


I believe you !

I also believe its a very rare occurrence as Werks have a very beefy well built crankcase !

TZ 02-02-2017 07:13 AM

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I agree it's very rare
Not in any way trying to say anything bad about Werks
I know aluminum is very finicky to work with
This is the only photo I have on me

rotor head33 02-02-2017 08:35 AM

Casting fissure? Looks right down the seam

Werks 02-02-2017 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by TZ (Post 14823905)
Sure, give me a little bit to put a picture up.
It split parallel with crank on very bottom of crankcase.
about an inch long.
engine ran great and really liked the powerband of the B6
I have read about one other doing the same thing.

Thanks, for putting up a picture. This is the first that I've seen that happen before.


Originally Posted by TZ (Post 14823905)
This isn't my first rodeo guys, Been doing this since the early 90's would rather be out on the track or in the the garage instead of trying to build post count! I understand the Manufactures Rep. required to be on and answer questions. Most of us come on hear to read about others experiences, and share their own so we can all learn and enjoy this Hobby. Not be prejudged by others who do not have a clue what happened.

Lets take a few deep breaths lol, not sure where this came from as all I mentioned was that our engines are not really know to have cases that split and asked that you give me some more information, so no prejudging was done on this end. In any case the reason that I was asking is simply because we stand behind our products. If you have an issue with one of them and you know it's not something caused by personal error/abuse and it's a warranty related issue like I would say in this case, then you should contact us and let us know about the problem. Not have us read about it on a forum. A lot of companies once they get your money frankly do not want to deal with you anymore, we're not one of those type of companies. If you bought one of our products and there is something wrong with it, we will take care of it.


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 14823918)
I believe you !

I also believe its a very rare occurrence as Werks have a very beefy well built crankcase !

Agreed about our cases, that was the reason that I was asking about the issue.


Originally Posted by TZ (Post 14823994)
I agree it's very rare
Not in any way trying to say anything bad about Werks
I know aluminum is very finicky to work with
This is the only photo I have on me

You are not doing us any diservice by mentioning an issue that you had. We would be doing not only our self but also you the customer a diservice by not trying to get additional information about the issue, addressing it and trying to take care of you. Hence the questions. Aluminum can be finicky to work with but our cases are not cast. We use MIM or a powdered Metal Injection Molding process to make our cases where powdered metal is basically forced into a mutli cavity mold under tremendous pressures (up to 2000 BAR or 29k PSI) and that pressure and friction of compressing the metal powder causes it to melt. Because of super high pressure that the metal powder is introduced into the mold at it ensures an even material density throughout the finished product and makes it impossible to have voids etc. Here is a video outlining the process that is used to make our cases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufKCjYRqh4

After molding and sintering the cases then go to finish machining and final inspection. So a lot is involved in making them and as I mentioned I've personaly litteraly never ever seen one split or get cracks before (other than around the mount tabs due to chassis flex like I mentioned earlier). This is a fluke, and it's not something that you should have to come out of pocket to deal with. Why don't you send me the engine and I'll take care of it under warranty and send you over a new one?

dan_vector 02-02-2017 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 14824230)
Thanks, for putting up a picture. This is the first that I've seen that happen before.



Lets take a few deep breaths lol, not sure where this came from as all I mentioned was that our engines are not really know to have cases that split and asked that you give me some more information, so no prejudging was done on this end. In any case the reason that I was asking is simply because we stand behind our products. If you have an issue with one of them and you know it's not something caused by personal error/abuse and it's a warranty related issue like I would say in this case, then you should contact us and let us know about the problem. Not have us read about it on a forum. A lot of companies once they get your money frankly do not want to deal with you anymore, we're not one of those type of companies. If you bought one of our products and there is something wrong with it, we will take care of it.



Agreed about our cases, that was the reason that I was asking about the issue.



You are not doing us any diservice by mentioning an issue that you had. We would be doing not only our self but also you the customer a diservice by not trying to get additional information about the issue, addressing it and trying to take care of you. Hence the questions. Aluminum can be finicky to work with but our cases are not cast. We use MIM or a powdered Metal Injection Molding process to make our cases where powdered metal is basically forced into a mutli cavity mold under tremendous pressures (up to 2000 BAR or 29k PSI) and that pressure and friction of compressing the metal powder causes it to melt. Because of super high pressure that the metal powder is introduced into the mold at it ensures an even material density throughout the finished product and makes it impossible to have voids etc. Here is a video outlining the process that is used to make our cases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufKCjYRqh4

After molding and sintering the cases then go to finish machining and final inspection. So a lot is involved in making them and as I mentioned I've personaly litteraly never ever seen one split or get cracks before (other than around the mount tabs due to chassis flex like I mentioned earlier). This is a fluke, and it's not something that you should have to come out of pocket to deal with. Why don't you send me the engine and I'll take care of it under warranty and send you over a new one?

Big thumbs up :nod:

timjs 02-02-2017 03:53 PM

Unbeleivable customer service. Wow!
A werks is in my future for sure!

fizzy 02-02-2017 04:16 PM

Yep. I've said it before and I'll say it again the support and customer service of werks is second to none and I know this is said often but they truly are incredible and not to mention they have top notch products too!!

houston 02-05-2017 07:44 PM

????
 
Im confused ...what thread is this? Lol

Herrsavage 02-06-2017 05:02 AM

The winter one..

WavyEnzo 02-06-2017 09:53 AM

The last 2 comments 😂.

Werks 02-06-2017 10:01 AM

Thanks guys but honestly me handling things like this is nothing special and is how those of us that truely care about the hobby take care of our customers. I have no doubt that any of you with issues would be taken care of in a similar manner be it with me, Lance with Triton or Monty with Fusion. A lot of companies are out just to get your money and don't want to deal with anything once they got it, we are in it for the long term and that's not how we opperate.



Originally Posted by houston (Post 14827834)
Im confused ...what thread is this? Lol

The Fusion thread:confused:
Oh wait it's not that one either, now I'm confused too;)

keithw11 02-07-2017 10:51 AM

anybody ever run Adam drake 5 port how did it run


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