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Old 01-03-2017 | 05:19 PM
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Hi guys I used to run the plus 21 4 in 2009 with my Losi 2.0 buggy and it screamed. I'm getting back into it again and buying the Losi 4.0 and I'm looking at the Keep Off 21-4 and not sure which pipe to get either the 9901 or 9886 with the 41021 manifold. I want lots of bottom end for clearing jumps but I want top end for long straight aways.
A friend keeps telling me to get the SH PT-2016 xbg, but I know nothing about the SH motors and I remember how great that Novarossi engine ran and I'm reluctant to buy something I don't know anything about even though it's cheaper.

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Old 01-03-2017 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico54
Hi guys I used to run the plus 21 4 in 2009 with my Losi 2.0 buggy and it screamed. I'm getting back into it again and buying the Losi 4.0 and I'm looking at the Keep Off 21-4 and not sure which pipe to get either the 9901 or 9886 with the 41021 manifold. I want lots of bottom end for clearing jumps but I want top end for long straight aways.
A friend keeps telling me to get the SH PT-2016 xbg, but I know nothing about the SH motors and I remember how great that Novarossi engine ran and I'm reluctant to buy something I don't know anything about even though it's cheaper.

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A 41021 will give you the mildest power , a 41033 will do better as would a 41001
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Old 01-03-2017 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo
A 41021 will give you the mildest power , a 41033 will do better as would a 41001
Maximo, how would the werks 2058 compare to the mentioned nova combos? I've got the 2058 on my keep off 21-4 and really like it!
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Old 01-03-2017 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo
A 41021 will give you the mildest power , a 41033 will do better as would a 41001
And which pipe for the Losi 4.0 buggy. 9901 or 9886?

Also is a 3 needle carb harder to tune than a 2 needle carb.

And what's the difference between steel and ceramic bearings? Which is better for longevity?

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Old 01-03-2017 | 07:33 PM
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Guys got a question on pipes? I run a mito 4 and was wondering what is the difference between and ultimate pipe and the novarossi based pipes? Is the ultimate 2123 a mimic of a nova pipe? Has anybody tried an ultimate pipe on a mito 4?
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Old 01-03-2017 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico54
And which pipe for the Losi 4.0 buggy. 9901 or 9886?

Also is a 3 needle carb harder to tune than a 2 needle carb.

And what's the difference between steel and ceramic bearings? Which is better for longevity?
I run keep off 4 with 41021/9886 and it has all the power it needed especially short run up to jump, excellent top end with 6.5mm venturi.

4bttwc 41033/2096 smooth n better top end. As for 9901/41021 combo is very flat on top imho.

Ceramics will give better response n longevity, main bearing only.

3 needles carb will tune the same as the 2 needles carb, just dont tune the mid range if u dont understand how it works. I dont feel/find any difference with both carbs
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Old 01-04-2017 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rico54
Hi guys I used to run the plus 21 4 in 2009 with my Losi 2.0 buggy and it screamed. I'm getting back into it again and buying the Losi 4.0 and I'm looking at the Keep Off 21-4 and not sure which pipe to get either the 9901 or 9886 with the 41021 manifold. I want lots of bottom end for clearing jumps but I want top end for long straight aways.
A friend keeps telling me to get the SH PT-2016 xbg, but I know nothing about the SH motors and I remember how great that Novarossi engine ran and I'm reluctant to buy something I don't know anything about even though it's cheaper.

Thanks
In buggy I run the Keepoff 4 with the 9901/41021 manifold. It's a great engine and I agree with you stick to Novarossi! The 9886 pipe is not allowed in my region as it's a 2 chamber pipe. The 9901/41021 combo is what the NR team drivers such as Adam Drake run in buggy.
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Old 01-06-2017 | 10:35 AM
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So nobody knew the comparison between the ultimate pipes and the novarossi pipes?
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Old 01-06-2017 | 12:08 PM
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Never even heard of it here.
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Old 01-08-2017 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ofna2005
So nobody knew the comparison between the ultimate pipes and the novarossi pipes?
Not sure but novarossi based engines wont have much difference
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Old 01-09-2017 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by houston
the newest batch i got not long ago are new redesigned more like the old R4 rods of 2005 or so ... R7/16 it seems as though the aluminum is harder in these newer rods ... not sure yet ... havent had one failures from any customers with em ... soo i am thinking they may be good

the rod is literally the weak link in these little 2 strokers ..... all manufacturers are susceptible ..... too heavy they dont run right ... too light and they are weak and both effect the reciprocating mass ..... whatcha gonna do
Hy, This is the response of NOVAROSSI Italy with regard to the question on the last connecting rod commercially available.
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Old 01-09-2017 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aulin79
Hy, This is the response of NOVAROSSI Italy with regard to the question on the last connecting rod commercially available.
can you translate this reply to english please?
would like to see what novarossi have to say
as they did not give a reason why my rod failed.
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Old 01-09-2017 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rick oxley
can you translate this reply to english please?
would like to see what novarossi have to say
as they did not give a reason why my rod failed.
I don't know why they don't answer you..I wrote Nova and my question related only to know the latest rod produced. Sorry, I don't help you.
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Old 01-09-2017 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rick oxley
can you translate this reply to english please?
would like to see what novarossi have to say
as they did not give a reason why my rod failed.
Aulin79 pretty much explained it, he messaged Novarossi just asking about what the current batch of r7 conrod numbers are and they replied with a number that's pretty much it
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Old 01-10-2017 | 01:17 PM
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thanks, got it now i was thinking the writeing in blue was reply from novarossi
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