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hambone 04-18-2010 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by topcat-lll (Post 7289895)
To me there is a slight lag, but it is at the very very begining of the powerband. I only noticed it from a dead stop. A too lean LSN will cause it
to lose alot of low-end; I found that out this weekend. I'm still testing the pipe. to me the mid low-end on up is way better than 9901. I think I can figure
out away to get rid of the lag. I know my mileage is hurting cause I ran out
of fuel at about 9 to 10 minutes lucky for me it was right in front of the pit
stand, but I was runnig it alittle to rich; the 9901 could do ten minutes with no problem. What clutch spings are you using? The 9853 pipe will not work with the 41021; the low-end will be great, but the mid through top-end
just gurggles.

Answer clutch and silver 1.0 springs. After a 6 min qual fuel was just below seam in tank. Can't complain abt mileage. My buddy got the exact engine from EB Mods and his has no bottom lag with 9853/41005. Gonna try that pipe and do more testing with RE10 this week. Murnan mods says alot of guys that run his modded fms like the 9901/41021 combo. To the track for pipe testing with Ed Bridges.

runar80 04-19-2010 03:06 PM

Hi

What header and pipe would you guys recommend for the Nova based Nitrotec? Been reeding that the Losi pipes are not so good, and I really need an EFRA approved pipe.

Thanks guys

Chris Reilly 04-19-2010 03:17 PM

Maybe the 9901SS/41021 header or the new 2084.

Dirtdobber 04-19-2010 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 7281857)
it is already properly shimmed for 30% ;)

Has this changed in the last year? I bought mine last summer and read all the threads I could find on the FMS. I remember seeing that you would have to add a shim to run 30%. I been running 25% all this time for nothing then.

houston 04-19-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Dirtdobber (Post 7293822)
Has this changed in the last year? I bought mine last summer and read all the threads I could find on the FMS. I remember seeing that you would have to add a shim to run 30%. I been running 25% all this time for nothing then.

there were a few of the earlier fms engines shimmed at .70mm but all the recent ones have been shimmed for american tracks and racers that run 30% nitro :nod:

topcat-lll 04-19-2010 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by hambone (Post 7290064)
Answer clutch and silver 1.0 springs. After a 6 min qual fuel was just below seam in tank. Can't complain abt mileage. My buddy got the exact engine from EB Mods and his has no bottom lag with 9853/41005. Gonna try that pipe and do more testing with RE10 this week. Murnan mods says alot of guys that run his modded fms like the 9901/41021 combo. To the track for pipe testing with Ed Bridges.

Did some testing today and what I found was surprising. When I first changed
over to the 9886 pipe from the 9901 and a 7mm venturi to a 7.5mm I made
a slight needle ajustment and ran from there. What I found out today is that
you have to completely retune the engine. I mean start with the HSN I ran it
up and down my street until it was set. Then the LSN leaned it until I got a
constant steady idle (before the idle was blubbery and not constant) I let it
idle for about 10 seconds then yank the throttle and it accelerated with
out stumbling.(before when I did that the engine would almost die or did die)
Well anyway the engine runs like a champ now, the lag is basically gone. I race this Saturday and I will let you know how it went. The 9853/41005
combo sounds interesting, but I would think the two 90 degree bends on the 41005 would hamper the top-end?

NitroLuver 04-19-2010 09:19 PM

Ok so in the near future I will be running nova +4's in my truggy and buggy...i was wondering has anyone tried it in the truggy with 9853/Long header? that's the setup I was thinking of trying because I've seen a few plus' in truggies and they didn't seem to have that bottom that I'd like. I would still like to have some top obviously for longer jumps on long straights but i want a fair amount of bottom 2

houston 04-19-2010 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by topcat-lll (Post 7294373)
Did some testing today and what I found was surprising. When I first changed
over to the 9886 pipe from the 9901 and a 7mm venturi to a 7.5mm I made
a slight needle ajustment and ran from there. What I found out today is that
you have to completely retune the engine. I mean start with the HSN I ran it
up and down my street until it was set. Then the LSN leaned it until I got a
constant steady idle (before the idle was blubbery and not constant) I let it
idle for about 10 seconds then yank the throttle and it accelerated with
out stumbling.(before when I did that the engine would almost die or did die)
Well anyway the engine runs like a champ now, the lag is basically gone. I race this Saturday and I will let you know how it went. The 9853/41005
combo sounds interesting, but I would think the two 90 degree bends on the 41005 would hamper the top-end?

no it doesnt and yes , every time you change pipesets that have different characteristics a complete retune is in order , i recommend just richening needles at least 1/4 turn on high and low before you go out and run or bench tune .

top end pipes will have leaner bottom and richer top balance and opposite for low end based pipes ;) a little tip from your uncle larr' :lol:

houston 04-19-2010 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by NitroLuver (Post 7294418)
Ok so in the near future I will be running nova +4's in my truggy and buggy...i was wondering has anyone tried it in the truggy with 9853/Long header? that's the setup I was thinking of trying because I've seen a few plus' in truggies and they didn't seem to have that bottom that I'd like. I would still like to have some top obviously for longer jumps on long straights but i want a fair amount of bottom 2

9853ss/41021 ;):nod: you will be happy with that setup but i would recommend p5xlt for truggy :D

NitroLuver 04-19-2010 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 7294432)
9853ss/41021 ;):nod: you will be happy with that setup but i would recommend p5xlt for truggy :D

I've thought about that 2 as i know the P5 is stout maybe I will we'll see when the time comes...btw how much do you charge for them? cause amain my favorite online hobby shop never has them in stock ever!!!

topcat-lll 04-20-2010 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 7294428)
no it doesnt and yes , every time you change pipesets that have different characteristics a complete retune is in order , i recommend just richening needles at least 1/4 turn on high and low before you go out and run or bench tune .

top end pipes will have leaner bottom and richer top balance and opposite for low end based pipes ;) a little tip from your uncle larr' :lol:



Thanks Monty.

nitronutzzz 04-20-2010 05:14 PM

I bought a used toro nero off the bay cheap. The crank, case, carb, head all seem to be in good shape but the P/S/rod is shot. I was wondering if any other p/s will fit in that motor. New toro nero p/s is like 250...I was wonder if a p5 or bf p/s will fit..thanks!

houston 04-21-2010 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by nitronutzzz (Post 7297780)
I bought a used toro nero off the bay cheap. The crank, case, carb, head all seem to be in good shape but the P/S/rod is shot. I was wondering if any other p/s will fit in that motor. New toro nero p/s is like 250...I was wonder if a p5 or bf p/s will fit..thanks!

Toro nero is its own animal , that answer would be no

Inertia 04-21-2010 02:52 PM

Were can I get a p/s then? At 250 it would be better to just buy a another toro

nitronutzzz 04-21-2010 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Inertia (Post 7302169)
Were can I get a p/s then? At 250 it would be better to just buy a another toro

Yeah houston can we get a hook up?


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