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aznitronut 05-28-2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Chad Millikan (Post 10788368)
A while back on this thread, I read that the RB ones work for the back plate.

RB's are all slotted screws, just a few use cap head. Mostly japanese engine use cap head screws, that I have noticed.

aznitronut 05-28-2012 08:51 AM

James, get better screw drivers and you won't mess up the screw heads so badly.

Jaz240 05-28-2012 09:15 AM

I have 40 different screwdrivers Tony and I even went as far as finding the perfect fit and then grinding down the edges so the driver fits into the holes in the cooling head. The design of the screws are just so bad that the driver slips loose before I can apply any torque. The P5 has a large O-ring type squish band under the head button that gets torn up fast and needs to be replaced and my engine needs a new front bearing. FYI the Werks head screws fit perfect and they are 3mm cap head hex so they will be very difficult to strip out if anyone is interested.

megasaxon 05-28-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Chad Millikan (Post 10788368)
A while back on this thread, I read that the RB ones work for the back plate.


RB's are made by novarossi, at least the good ones...



Originally Posted by Jaz240 (Post 10788489)
I have 40 different screwdrivers Tony and I even went as far as finding the perfect fit and then grinding down the edges so the driver fits into the holes in the cooling head. The design of the screws are just so bad that the driver slips loose before I can apply any torque. The P5 has a large O-ring type squish band under the head button that gets torn up fast and needs to be replaced and my engine needs a new front bearing. FYI the Werks head screws fit perfect and they are 3mm cap head hex so they will be very difficult to strip out if anyone is interested.

those hafta be 3.5mm thread with 3mm head correct?

aznitronut 05-28-2012 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by megasaxon (Post 10788504)
RB's are made by novarossi, at least the good ones...

Correct, as far as I know, the Nova's use slotted screws,

aznitronut 05-28-2012 09:25 AM

How is the O-ring getting torn up so quickly? If its squished down, nothing is moving to tear it up. The 21-4 has the same type of O-ring thing.

Jaz240 05-28-2012 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by aznitronut (Post 10788536)
How is the O-ring getting torn up so quickly? If its squished down, nothing is moving to tear it up. The 21-4 has the same type of O-ring thing.

As soon as you tighten it down it gets chewed up. It's not a good fit into the button and the button tears it up when you tighten the bolts

Jaz240 05-28-2012 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by megasaxon (Post 10788504)
RB's are made by novarossi, at least the good ones...




those hafta be 3.5mm thread with 3mm head correct?


I have not measured them yet. They are slightly shorter but I think they will work fine.

aznitronut 05-28-2012 09:40 AM

The newer RBs with the Low profile head ( LG ) uses shorter head screws, the LG head is made with 2 cooling fins sitting lower over the engine case. If the head screws are shorter, its easier to strip out the threads on ths engine case if they are to short

rider313 05-28-2012 09:42 AM

I also just used screws off a old dead engine I had. The head screws were two threads shorter but that shouldn't matter. Idk what nova was thinking, let's put a shallow slot flat blade screw for the head bolts. Much easier to torque with the allen heads.

jnorwood_losi 05-28-2012 09:56 AM

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...si-Engine-Head

This Hudy screwdriver is made for the Nova's, it fits into the head PERFECT and I have never had a issue

megasaxon 05-28-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by rider313 (Post 10788621)
I also just used screws off a old dead engine I had. The head screws were two threads shorter but that shouldn't matter. Idk what nova was thinking, let's put a shallow slot flat blade screw for the head bolts. Much easier to torque with the allen heads.

i disagree, as soon as you start to wear the allen head out, good luck getting it out of the case. I use a nice stanley screwdriver with the tip dremeled just a touch to fit in the head a little better and havent had an issue and i take my engines apart regularly

houston 05-28-2012 10:49 AM

Flathead screws: reasoning , harder to apply too much torque that will warp the block
James : if you are tearing up the oring its because your shimming is lower than novarossi recommended ;) .65mm is the very lowest i will shim a novarossi , .60mm is ok but ......

Just leave the oring out , wont harm anything

Jaz240 05-28-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 10788880)
Flathead screws: reasoning , harder to apply too much torque that will warp the block
James : if you are tearing up the oring its because your shimming is lower than novarossi recommended ;) .65mm is the very lowest i will shim a novarossi , .60mm is ok but ......

Just leave the oring out , wont harm anything

However Neal sends em out is how its shimmed..I will measure when I get back home..The flathead screw now makes sense But I still hate them..I have never in my life heard of anyone warping their blocks with metric hex head cooling head screws but I guess anything is possible.....

bigjayjay1 05-28-2012 12:28 PM

I agree with James hex hex way better screws with slots equals problems. I don't run the oring on my cre P5 ;)-head button


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