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Xyzzy 08-30-2012 02:35 AM

Oddball question: Do Team Orion engines come sealed in the box? I'd hate to purchase one that has been sitting in a counter being turned over by every kid that walks in the store. Most of my other (electric) Team Orion stuff has been sealed. (Except my new touch screen charger.)

Thanks!

Maximo 08-30-2012 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by jeromerc (Post 11148704)
Yes, I have tried everything I can think of accept for checking all the parts with precision measuring tools. I have sealed the engine, changed o-rings in the carb, replaced the carb with one from a different Orion, new fuel system from tank to lines, new exhaust, different mills, fuel cooler, no fuel cooler, extra fuel filter no extra fuel filter, taken out shims added shims, new glow plugs, different fuel, different flywheels, collets, new clutch springs, new shoes. Hell I even changed the head button out with the new one from my 2012 Orion CRF 5 port. The only thing that seemed to work but it still isn't reliable was what Monty told me to do and take the carb out, blow through the fuel line, then take the needles out and blow through the line again, and then to clean all the needles and reassemble it. After doing this I was able to get my first tank of fuel through the engine, however shortly after the first tank the same problem all over again. I once again did what he said but this time I put an entirely new fuel system on the car, new tank and lines. Sometimes it can run about 5 minutes or half a tank, other times hardly at all. I have never checked my temp and found it over 250, I think the highest was like 248. When it dies it usually starts right back up no problem. The saddest thing in the world is that this engine is awesome when it is running. It is wicked fast on the straights, tons of low end power and literally pulls away from all the other engines on the track, even the new OS Speed's and 7 port Novarossi's



swap the carb and remove 1 thin head shim...........

jeromerc 08-30-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 11153685)
swap the carb and remove 1 thin head shim...........

already did it. Put the carb from my 7 port Orion that runs 11 minutes on one tank, also took out a thin shim. I am beginning to wonder if the case is not cracked, I have now heard of 2 other engines where their cases were cracked very quickly.


Yes Orion engines come sealed in a box, if not then the hobby shop took it out for a display.

evolution03 08-30-2012 06:05 PM

[QUOTE=jeromerc;11155792]already did it. Put the carb from my 7 port Orion that runs 11 minutes on one tank, also took out a thin shim. I am beginning to wonder if the case is not cracked, I have now heard of 2 other engines where their cases were cracked very quickly.


Yes Orion engines come sealed in a box, if not then the hobby shop took it out for a display.[/QUOTE

i had one crack within 1.5 gallons very small hard to see cracks.

Xyzzy 08-30-2012 09:29 PM


Yes Orion engines come sealed in a box, if not then the hobby shop took it out for a display.
Excellent! One of my pet peeves about dealing with a LHS (in general) is anything cool I order tends to get "checked out" by all the regulars. My current LHS isn't like this as far as I know.

I ordered the ORI80691 (CRF Buggy 21 3 Ports Factory Tuned Engine) and the ORI88217 (Off-Road .21 Tuned Pipe & Manifold Kit, EFRA 2013) today. Hopefully that is a good combo!

:tire:

basher26 08-30-2012 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by jeromerc (Post 11152781)
.... My problem is that there is NO pinch so I know it dropped its nuts and it never was consistent even on the starter box through break-in.

I had NO pinch, had starter box issues and was fed up too. It shouldn't be that hard, because it ain't! I was ready to order an Arrow Racing GTR engine. If you have a break in bench, you can do it there?

Good luck!

jeromerc 08-30-2012 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by basher26 (Post 11156815)
I had NO pinch, had starter box issues and was fed up too. It shouldn't be that hard, because it ain't! I was ready to order an Arrow Racing GTR engine. If you have a break in bench, you can do it there?

Good luck!

I break it in on the car, I use the plop it down and run it in method in 3 and 5 minute increments with a slightly rich tune as in the first post from how to break in an engine. I figure most of the new RTR cars mimic this method and if the top builders are doing it that way why not me.



I think the 2013 pipe is a good pipe but the 2058 is a bit better. But there should be no disappointments with your 2013. From what I hear and have seen the 2058 and the jp3 pipes seem to be great pipes on all engines, clearly some nova guys will argue their pipes are better but you can put a 2058 on any engine and have it run good, some are better for a more specific need but for all around good pipes the 2058 and jp3 are those go to pipes.

plasma327 09-26-2012 05:46 PM

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Hi Fella's
Thought i would chat in and share my CRF as well. It is one of the older Orion's. I like it with the JP3 pipe. I get 10 min's runtime with gob's of power. It rips my 8 with no struggle at all. Great Engines IMO!

Maximo 09-26-2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by plasma327 (Post 11257837)
Hi Fella's
Thought i would chat in and share my CRF as well. It is one of the older Orion's. I like it with the JP3 pipe. I get 10 min's runtime with gob's of power. It rips my 8 with no struggle at all. Great Engines IMO!

If i am not mistaken that is one of the older PIcco CRF engines..... they are badass !!!

plasma327 09-26-2012 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 11257849)
If i am not mistaken that is one of the older PIcco CRF engines..... they are badass !!!

Hi Neal,
Yes, it is one the Picco based. Yes it is a Beast to say the least. I will be sad when it gives out.

angelfire 09-30-2012 07:07 PM

Piston and conrod broken
 
Hey guys need help
I broke my conrod and piston on my cody king motor
This is a 5 port motor
Question is can i change the piston/sleeve to a 3 port
Are they compatible, even the conrod?
I've always used Sidewinder 20% nitro
Since this the only available fuel on our LHS
I got 6 gallons on my Cody king motor before i broke the conrod and piston
No luck, always retune this motor everytime, hard to stay it on low idle
Maybe thats why it wears quickly.
Just need some suggestion if i can change it to 3 port piston/sleeve???

camiloro 10-31-2012 09:43 PM

good day, i need buy a new engine, and i see the new Orion CRF ORI80692 (5 port) an CRF ORI80691 (3 port), i need some advice for to find out which motor buy.

i have a losi 8ight buggy 2.0, my track is short y technical, have many jump, for my is very important the botton end, and a good runtime (actually my OS run 11 minutes) I have doubts if motor 3 ports, is very slow in the straight lines.

my other dude is if a 5 port, give me a 12 minutes runtime? because have more power, an a perfect runtime.

please tell me wich one engine buy???? 3 or 5 port............

RePeTe 11-01-2012 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by camiloro (Post 11391512)
good day, i need buy a new engine, and i see the new Orion CRF ORI80692 (5 port) an CRF ORI80691 (3 port), i need some advice for to find out which motor buy.

i have a losi 8ight buggy 2.0, my track is short y technical, have many jump, for my is very important the botton end, and a good runtime (actually my OS run 11 minutes) I have doubts if motor 3 ports, is very slow in the straight lines.

my other dude is if a 5 port, give me a 12 minutes runtime? because have more power, an a perfect runtime.

please tell me wich one engine buy???? 3 or 5 port............

3 port should be fine, they get great run time and have plenty of power and speed.

camiloro 11-02-2012 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by RePeTe (Post 11395202)
3 port should be fine, they get great run time and have plenty of power and speed.

Repete, thanks for your answer

this is my track video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLBRLLwnXc0

i like the 3 port, for the fuel comsuption, but my dude if the top end, and the botton end.

i have a OZ XZ, this orion is better with my OS XZ spec?

thanks

RePeTe 11-02-2012 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by camiloro (Post 11396257)
Repete, thanks for your answer

this is my track video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLBRLLwnXc0

i like the 3 port, for the fuel comsuption, but my dude if the top end, and the botton end.

i have a OZ XZ, this orion is better with my OS XZ spec?

thanks

The XZ's are great motors. the 3port orion is very comparable, they are probably more similar in feel and power than they are different.


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