Serpent 710
#1472
Originally posted by lawndoggie
At my locak track, after my long straight (well not that long at all) there is a turn that is 90degrees, how do people approach this with their throttle?
At my locak track, after my long straight (well not that long at all) there is a turn that is 90degrees, how do people approach this with their throttle?
If you're using a one way front, you need to brake much earlier. Because your brakes cannot be set hard to lock the rear tires, the brakes EPA need to be as little as possible. Just enough that the car slows down. Brake only when the car is straight. Once you got the distance that you should brake before taking the corner, you need to carry speed into the corners. So you can either let your throttle off or throttle a little to maintain that slow speed around the corner. How much faster you can mover around the corner depends on the traction your car has without flipping over.
The best is to watch at the trackside and see how the fast drivers take that corner. Then try to emulate it by slowly going through it and go faster once you are more certain with the car.
#1473
Tech Regular
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 277
From: Hong Kong
Originally posted by InitialD
You need to get a feeling of the car first. In short, you need a lot of track time to get used to how and when you can push the car. How much you can do this depends on how you set the car's shocks, chassis and clutch.
If you're using a one way front, you need to brake much earlier. Because your brakes cannot be set hard to lock the rear tires, the brakes EPA need to be as little as possible. Just enough that the car slows down. Brake only when the car is straight. Once you got the distance that you should brake before taking the corner, you need to carry speed into the corners. So you can either let your throttle off or throttle a little to maintain that slow speed around the corner. How much faster you can mover around the corner depends on the traction your car has without flipping over.
The best is to watch at the trackside and see how the fast drivers take that corner. Then try to emulate it by slowly going through it and go faster once you are more certain with the car.
You need to get a feeling of the car first. In short, you need a lot of track time to get used to how and when you can push the car. How much you can do this depends on how you set the car's shocks, chassis and clutch.
If you're using a one way front, you need to brake much earlier. Because your brakes cannot be set hard to lock the rear tires, the brakes EPA need to be as little as possible. Just enough that the car slows down. Brake only when the car is straight. Once you got the distance that you should brake before taking the corner, you need to carry speed into the corners. So you can either let your throttle off or throttle a little to maintain that slow speed around the corner. How much faster you can mover around the corner depends on the traction your car has without flipping over.
The best is to watch at the trackside and see how the fast drivers take that corner. Then try to emulate it by slowly going through it and go faster once you are more certain with the car.
Anyway, I got new bumper set!
and I am taking 16 days off this month... will be hitting the track daily...
As for the track, its NARROW, the straight is 2 meters wide... I think between 25-30 meters long?
Its got lotsa trackion, the guys at LHS told me they make VERY thin tires and cut the front rim to 24mm to reduce traction....
#1474
Originally posted by lawndoggie
Its got lotsa trackion, the guys at LHS told me they make VERY thin tires and cut the front rim to 24mm to reduce traction....
Its got lotsa trackion, the guys at LHS told me they make VERY thin tires and cut the front rim to 24mm to reduce traction....
Ummm, too much traction? Use harder front tires like 42 or even 45.
#1475
2m wide... so its a little skinnier than the one I run on...
The only fast 90deg corner we have can be taken wide open throttle on a good traction day. But on a normal club day it can be a little hairy to go flat out through it. I usually just back off just before turning in, and then get back on full just before the apex.
The next corner will also come into play in how you take the corner... depending on where it is and what it is, you may find your laptimes better taking a line that suits entry into the next corner.. ie, you might be able to take the corner flat out, but may be too hot and too wide for the next.
Watch other racers lines. It doesnt matter what car they drive, principles are the same.
Oh, as for throttle position during cornering... It depends on your car setup.. you can actually steer you car with throttle manipulation once you are comfortable with your car. eg, depending on setup, more power can mean more push or more turn.
The only fast 90deg corner we have can be taken wide open throttle on a good traction day. But on a normal club day it can be a little hairy to go flat out through it. I usually just back off just before turning in, and then get back on full just before the apex.
The next corner will also come into play in how you take the corner... depending on where it is and what it is, you may find your laptimes better taking a line that suits entry into the next corner.. ie, you might be able to take the corner flat out, but may be too hot and too wide for the next.
Watch other racers lines. It doesnt matter what car they drive, principles are the same.
Oh, as for throttle position during cornering... It depends on your car setup.. you can actually steer you car with throttle manipulation once you are comfortable with your car. eg, depending on setup, more power can mean more push or more turn.
Last edited by sparksy; 12-05-2003 at 02:28 AM.
#1476
Originally posted by InitialD
Say, what are you going to do with two Murnan Modified NSRs?
For the 2 snakes in time for race?
Say, what are you going to do with two Murnan Modified NSRs?
For the 2 snakes in time for race?
Well, first Grinder has to reply. I thought I was bad with emails ... he's worse! So I haven't heard if he will take the order let alone if it'll come in time for the race.
Second, the order was for me and a friend. Mine will go in the 710, the 705 already has a "mongrel" engine and the Impulse Pro will be a "safety car" using some compressionless engine
#1477
Tech Regular
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 277
From: Hong Kong
Now that i think of it, the car is too soft, i.e I need to make it stiffing into and out of turns... its VERY slow entering turns, it makes huge radius, and its very slow coming out of turns...
I think the shocks are too soft......maybe not giving enough "reaction" to push the car at turns..
I think the shocks are too soft......maybe not giving enough "reaction" to push the car at turns..
#1478
Originally posted by lawndoggie
I think the shocks are too soft......maybe not giving enough "reaction" to push the car at turns..
I think the shocks are too soft......maybe not giving enough "reaction" to push the car at turns..
#1480
Originally posted by sparksy
The next corner will also come into play in how you take the corner... depending on where it is and what it is, you may find your laptimes better taking a line that suits entry into the next corner.. ie, you might be able to take the corner flat out, but may be too hot and too wide for the next.
Watch other racers lines. It doesnt matter what car they drive, principles are the same.
Oh, as for throttle position during cornering... It depends on your car setup.. you can actually steer you car with throttle manipulation once you are comfortable with your car. eg, depending on setup, more power can mean more push or more turn.
The next corner will also come into play in how you take the corner... depending on where it is and what it is, you may find your laptimes better taking a line that suits entry into the next corner.. ie, you might be able to take the corner flat out, but may be too hot and too wide for the next.
Watch other racers lines. It doesnt matter what car they drive, principles are the same.
Oh, as for throttle position during cornering... It depends on your car setup.. you can actually steer you car with throttle manipulation once you are comfortable with your car. eg, depending on setup, more power can mean more push or more turn.
#1482
Hey guys found some nice pictures of the new snake on the starting grid 2004 conference.
Try the following link:
http://www.rc-racing.com/cgi-bin/bac...howforgotten=2
Try the following link:
http://www.rc-racing.com/cgi-bin/bac...howforgotten=2
#1484
Originally posted by Herbie
Hey guys found some nice pictures of the new snake on the starting grid 2004 conference.
Hey guys found some nice pictures of the new snake on the starting grid 2004 conference.



