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Old 03-29-2005, 09:57 AM   #20761
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Hmm, that would have been interesting for me, as even when I follow your building tips to the letter, I keep blowing the two metal shielded bearings - I posted an article in the 3hobby forums about this - maybe you could give your comments?

I saw this yesterday whilst scanning mytsn - very nice article - makes me want to get a Veteq I love tinkering, so I think I would like this car - but there again, I still have a Vector NT which still hasn't turned a wheel


We will forgive you if you promise to come to next years Winternats??

Just a humble 'ol Canadian... that's me!

I have read the thread on 3hobby, and a lot of the responses seem to make sense. I had some thoughts... perhaps the ball-bearings are not sitting right in the pinion, or the pinion is warped making the bearings tilt a bit. That would toast the ball-bearings really quickly. Good ways to tell if the pinion is warped: there are noticable tight-spots when checking gearmesh, and also when you do the final "push-pull" to check endplay... does the clutchbell slide smoothly on the crank or does it bind? Do you have the thin alum. shim installed between the two pinion gears? The 2mm spring preload seems excessive to me. As for endplay, I had to add close to 1mm of spacers to get the proper minimal endplay in my clutch.


I hope to get a Veteq revolution going... Fabulous cars! When they are set up properly they cannot be beat!


Winternats... hmmm....
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Just a humble 'ol Canadian... that's me!

I have read the thread on 3hobby, and a lot of the responses seem to make sense. I had some thoughts... perhaps the ball-bearings are not sitting right in the pinion, or the pinion is warped making the bearings tilt a bit. That would toast the ball-bearings really quickly. Good ways to tell if the pinion is warped: there are noticable tight-spots when checking gearmesh, and also when you do the final "push-pull" to check endplay... does the clutchbell slide smoothly on the crank or does it bind? Do you have the thin alum. shim installed between the two pinion gears? The 2mm spring preload seems excessive to me. As for endplay, I had to add close to 1mm of spacers to get the proper minimal endplay in my clutch.


I hope to get a Veteq revolution going... Fabulous cars! When they are set up properly they cannot be beat!


Winternats... hmmm....
Hey Mr Humble Canadian

The pinions are ok, but getting the first metal shielded bearing into the first gear was quite tight - I fell that this is where my problems may have come from. Certainly the push-pull wasn't so smooth. Now I've dremelled it out, so that the bearing fits in perfectly The push, pull action is now very smooth
I have the new pinion gears and for them, there is no spacer required anymore.

But I don't add anywhere near 1mm for end-play - I'm adding 0.5 for one engine and 0.6mm worth of spacer for the other one ..... you sure you put the 0.5mm spacer between the engine and the brass cone? J/K

Well, I'm off to a race at the weekend in Austria - I'll meet up with Rene there and see if he can cast his expert eye on my shoddy work

Maybe you should write an article on how to go about setting up the Veteq - I'd be very interested in reading something like that I'm really interested in its mechanical side.

Re: Winternats - that sounded like a very positive yes to me
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The pinions are ok, but getting the first metal shielded bearing into the first gear was quite tight - I fell that this is where my problems may have come from. Certainly the push-pull wasn't so smooth. Now I've dremelled it out, so that the bearing fits in perfectly The push, pull action is now very smooth
I have the new pinion gears and for them, there is no spacer required anymore.

But I don't add anywhere near 1mm for end-play - I'm adding 0.5 for one engine and 0.6mm worth of spacer for the other one ..... you sure you put the 0.5mm spacer between the engine and the brass cone? J/K

Well, I'm off to a race at the weekend in Austria - I'll meet up with Rene there and see if he can cast his expert eye on my shoddy work

Maybe you should write an article on how to go about setting up the Veteq - I'd be very interested in reading something like that I'm really interested in its mechanical side.

Re: Winternats - that sounded like a very positive yes to me
Best of luck in Austria. Say "Hello" to Rene for me... we haven't spoken in quite a while!

Mark, I didn't think you even knew how to SPELL "shoddy" let alone do it!

I think that we may put together a Veteq guide... with our own experiences, and we will probably draw on help from other more knowledgable sources.

Winternats... time? place? Ahhh... money money money... but then I sure picked the worst class to get into for that. hehehe
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Best of luck in Austria. Say "Hello" to Rene for me... we haven't spoken in quite a while!
Will do!

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Mark, I didn't think you even knew how to SPELL "shoddy" let alone do it!
It was just a wild stab in the dark

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I think that we may put together a Veteq guide... with our own experiences, and we will probably draw on help from other more knowledgable sources.
That would be very interesting!! If you want to upload some of your hi-res images, go to 3hobby, SlowSteady would love to have them hosted there - also a forum for the Veteq...

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Winternats... time? place? Ahhh... money money money... but then I sure picked the worst class to get into for that. hehehe
Just reserve the begining of Feb and see what happens

Cheers, Mark.
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I love tinkering, so I think I would like this car - but there again, I still have a Vector NT which still hasn't turned a wheel
Mark, slap in a Mega Powerpack and you'll be good to go. Even Uncle Crash is raring to get one when he saw how fierce these beast were in Thailand.
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Sorry to have dropped out of the 200mm class... but I was bitten by the 1:8 bug. My S710 now has a good home.

Hi Glen,
Having never driven eighth scaler model before, I was wondering if you might have any slight ideas on how to make the 710 drives/behaves like its big brother using lola body ?
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Mark, slap in a Mega Powerpack and you'll be good to go. Even Uncle Crash is raring to get one when he saw how fierce these beast were in Thailand.
Aiyayayayaya - Maybe I have to enter another race in Austria, so I can get a 21 engine for a very good price!
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Well, I'm off to a race at the weekend in Austria - I'll meet up with Rene there and see if he can cast his expert eye on my shoddy work
Me too Mark! With all of my friends from Slovenia. Eight of them till know.
Last weekend was an club open race for guests.
I finished second with my S710 with Sirio engine.

RESULTS:
http://www.morac-graz.at/rennen05/er...1-05_morac.htm

Did you drive on this track yet?
What setup are you gonna use?

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Me too Mark! With all of my friends from Slovenia. Eight of them till know.
Last weekend was an club open race for guests.
I finished second with my S710 with Sirio engine.

RESULTS:
http://www.morac-graz.at/rennen05/er...1-05_morac.htm

Did you drive on this track yet?
What setup are you gonna use?

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Cool!! I've never driven on this circuit, so it'll be a steep learning curve in the time I have available

I'll start out with a setup similar to Julius' LRP Luxembourg one.

What gearing where you using?

Cheers, Mark.
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Just a question guys.
I see most of the setup running ~3deg camber at the back. Even the stock setup is so...
Don't you guys get uneven tyre wear? My tyres get coned when I run that high camber at the back.
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Cool!! I've never driven on this circuit, so it'll be a steep learning curve in the time I have available

I'll start out with a setup similar to Julius' LRP Luxembourg one.

What gearing where you using?

Cheers, Mark.
My whole car was by default.
Exept the new side alu pully 21T with tire difference 3 mm smaller to front(thanks to Julius).
Must not forget that I was also using front ball differential (wery tight).

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Mark, slap in a Mega Powerpack and you'll be good to go. Even Uncle Crash is raring to get one when he saw how fierce these beast were in Thailand.
I just went back to Thailand for holiday.

Thai Best Driver did tell me that 1/10 Mega engine is very good.
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Which one is this? Legal 3 port or the 5 port outlaw?
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Just a question guys.
I see most of the setup running ~3deg camber at the back. Even the stock setup is so...
Don't you guys get uneven tyre wear? My tyres get coned when I run that high camber at the back.
If you run on the straights most of the time or if you're not cornering hard enough, then your rear tires only need little camber...

How much is it coned? Smaller diameter in the inner side compared to the outer or vice versa? If smaller diameter in the inner side, then it's good. Not too much though.

Anyway, set the rear camber so that it's just slightly coned (smaller inner diameter compared to outer). For the front tires, make sure the camber is enough to make them wear flat.
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My whole car was by default.
Exept the new side alu pully 21T with tire difference 3 mm smaller to front(thanks to Julius).
Must not forget that I was also using front ball differential (wery tight).

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Ok, that's good to know - maybe the track looks bigger than it actually is.

Cheers, Mark.
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