Serpent 710
10-05-2004 | 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Picard
And also B4 when I installed it you cannot have the servo arm centered or the throw will be off still,no matter what you set the steering link to, you have to have the arm forward of centre.
Of course I do have a futaba S9451
And also B4 when I installed it you cannot have the servo arm centered or the throw will be off still,no matter what you set the steering link to, you have to have the arm forward of centre.
Of course I do have a futaba S9451
10-05-2004 | 12:50 AM
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From: "Make it so"
Originally posted by markp27
That's them, that's the tyres that Sow was using 
My setup was pretty similar actually - in desperation in searching for grip, I threw away both anti-roll bars and softened the suspension right down. It did calm things down a bit and sliced three seconds off my lap times, but with the slicks I could only put partial throttle on before the car would just spin out. If I had had softer tyres it would have been better - those rain tyres which worked well were 20 hardness, wereas my not-working-so-well
slicks were 27s 
Still it was fun and very demanding to keep the car on the track and I was reasonably pleased with my result - doing my best to emulate other known "nutters" who always used slicks in the rain, like Jean Alesi and Gilles Villeneuve It was all about crowd entertainment 
That's them, that's the tyres that Sow was using My setup was pretty similar actually - in desperation in searching for grip, I threw away both anti-roll bars and softened the suspension right down. It did calm things down a bit and sliced three seconds off my lap times, but with the slicks I could only put partial throttle on before the car would just spin out. If I had had softer tyres it would have been better - those rain tyres which worked well were 20 hardness, wereas my not-working-so-well
slicks were 27s Still it was fun and very demanding to keep the car on the track and I was reasonably pleased with my result - doing my best to emulate other known "nutters" who always used slicks in the rain, like Jean Alesi and Gilles Villeneuve
It was all about crowd entertainment
Did you find any difference in the diff settings with the new ring?
10-05-2004 | 12:52 AM
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From: Nuremberg, Germany
Originally posted by InitialD
I think the story would be more credible if Ian's car had the old stock rear shock tower ! 
I think the story would be more credible if Ian's car had the old stock rear shock tower !
10-05-2004 | 12:53 AM
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From: "Make it so"
Originally posted by B4
Perhaps I need to explain myself a bit better. You need to determine first if the arm needs to be longer or shorter. Once you know this it is a very simple job to remove the arm and change the length, we are talking about a Serpent here so very easy to work on. I'm not saying the length is wrong that you have been told, simply explaining the way I would and do do it.
Perhaps I need to explain myself a bit better. You need to determine first if the arm needs to be longer or shorter. Once you know this it is a very simple job to remove the arm and change the length, we are talking about a Serpent here so very easy to work on. I'm not saying the length is wrong that you have been told, simply explaining the way I would and do do it.
needs to be 39.5-40mm long.
10-05-2004 | 12:53 AM
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From: Nuremberg, Germany
Originally posted by Picard
Mark
Did you find any difference in the diff settings with the new ring?
Mark
Did you find any difference in the diff settings with the new ring?
I don't have the new diff ring yet, but I'm sure Sow had all his trick parts in there somewhere
He was doing the "two-car-wifey" trick on me - I couldn't tell if he had one or more cars there 
Very quick with his shakey hands is Sow!
10-05-2004 | 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by markp27
It was all about crowd entertainment
It was all about crowd entertainment
Yeah I know the feeling. Anyway, I believe Onkel Sow treats mytsn site like his bible. Memorising every single setup especially of those tracks around his area before he goes and race.
He must have the RING even though the "youthness" of his face does not show it.
10-05-2004 | 01:08 AM
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From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by InitialD
Yeah, this I forgot to mention. When you're too old, then you've past the point of no return. As what they say, it's beyond hope what the RING can do already.
I know it not mentioned in the Idiot's Guide to the RING but it's in the advance blackbook intended for the serious user of the RING.
Yeah, this I forgot to mention. When you're too old, then you've past the point of no return.
As what they say, it's beyond hope what the RING can do already. I know it not mentioned in the Idiot's Guide to the RING
but it's in the advance blackbook intended for the serious user of the RING.
10-05-2004 | 01:09 AM
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From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by markp27
After the race was rained out, a couple of guys decided to entertain us with their drifting styles - Ian the 710 drifter had already entertained us in his heats with his perfect drifting techniques.
Sow had his video cam to record the fun. Unfortunately for Ian, water got into his radio which made his 710 take off at full speed across the circuit. I was trying to catch the car and almost had it at one point as it started to spin on the spot (just like that 1/8th on Ray Wood's vid). Unfortunately, the car took off once more at full speed along the length of the circuit and embedded itself in the very solid fence at the end of the main straight.
Upon inspecting the car, and fearing the worst, due to it being a glass car we saw the car wasn't damaged!!!! Unfortunately Sow (slow) wasn't quick enough to record the full horror of the crash, but did get a good shot of Ian inspecting the car afterwards.
I think a copy will be sent to serpent with a request to make the car more glass like
After the race was rained out, a couple of guys decided to entertain us with their drifting styles - Ian the 710 drifter had already entertained us in his heats with his perfect drifting techniques.
Sow had his video cam to record the fun. Unfortunately for Ian, water got into his radio which made his 710 take off at full speed across the circuit. I was trying to catch the car and almost had it at one point as it started to spin on the spot (just like that 1/8th on Ray Wood's vid). Unfortunately, the car took off once more at full speed along the length of the circuit and embedded itself in the very solid fence at the end of the main straight.
Upon inspecting the car, and fearing the worst, due to it being a glass car
we saw the car wasn't damaged!!!! Unfortunately Sow (slow) wasn't quick enough to record the full horror of the crash, but did get a good shot of Ian inspecting the car afterwards.I think a copy will be sent to serpent with a request to make the car more glass like
Yes, yes, what's it worth Serpent?
That car was definitely made of some special glass ... it broke the fence instead of itself.
Video of it on 3hobby.com later ...
10-05-2004 | 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Yes, yes, what's it worth Serpent?
That car was definitely made of some special glass ... it broke the fence instead of itself.
Yes, yes, what's it worth Serpent?
That car was definitely made of some special glass ... it broke the fence instead of itself.
10-05-2004 | 01:11 AM
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From: Va Va Voom!
Originally posted by markp27
That's them, that's the tyres that Sow was using
My setup was pretty similar actually - in desperation in searching for grip, I threw away both anti-roll bars and softened the suspension right down. It did calm things down a bit and sliced three seconds off my lap times, but with the slicks I could only put partial throttle on before the car would just spin out. If I had had softer tyres it would have been better - those rain tyres which worked well were 20 hardness, wereas my not-working-so-well slicks were 27s
Still it was fun and very demanding to keep the car on the track and I was reasonably pleased with my result - doing my best to emulate other known "nutters" who always used slicks in the rain, like Jean Alesi and Gilles Villeneuve It was all about crowd entertainment
That's them, that's the tyres that Sow was using My setup was pretty similar actually - in desperation in searching for grip, I threw away both anti-roll bars and softened the suspension right down. It did calm things down a bit and sliced three seconds off my lap times, but with the slicks I could only put partial throttle on before the car would just spin out. If I had had softer tyres it would have been better - those rain tyres which worked well were 20 hardness, wereas my not-working-so-well
slicks were 27s Still it was fun and very demanding to keep the car on the track and I was reasonably pleased with my result - doing my best to emulate other known "nutters" who always used slicks in the rain, like Jean Alesi and Gilles Villeneuve
It was all about crowd entertainment