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Old 10-03-2004, 10:16 PM   #16771
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Tried the new rear bars yesterday during the club meeting. the 2.5mm definetely worked best for me. Shaved off the lap time by .3 secs. Very good on power.
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Old 10-03-2004, 10:21 PM   #16772
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Tried the new rear bars yesterday during the club meeting. the 2.5mm definetely worked best for me. Shaved off the lap time by .3 secs. Very good on power.
Cool. What were your sway bar settings with the new 2.5 mm bar? Did it rub / bind when mounted in the inner side of the bottom rear arms?
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Cool. What were your sway bar settings with the new 2.5 mm bar? Did it rub / bind when mounted in the inner side of the bottom rear arms?
It was mounted on the outside, 2.5mm slided in, otherwise the rods would come in contact with the bones.

I will try the inner hole next week. (didn't have time to screw in the 1.5mm set screws into the inner hole.)

The 3mm bar was a little overkill for our track, though.

There was one thing that I was trying to figure out, the car was good in the infield and fast on the straight (hey it is a serpent anyway - could keep up no problem with mods engine cars), but I had to get off the throttle sooner on the straight to make the line tighter on the sweeper. Too much power going in the car would just oversteer in the middle of the sweeper off power.

It felt like part the rear outside tire chunked. But the tires were all in a good shape in the entire 30 minutes race.

That's something I will look into it next week.
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Old 10-03-2004, 11:44 PM   #16774
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Too much power going in the car would just oversteer in the middle of the sweeper off power.
It could be a few things... Too much rear droop, too soft front suspension, too soft front sway bar, too much front camber. A simple thing such as a harder front tire might solve the problem too.
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:31 AM   #16775
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Well I ran the new servo saver on the weekend. I realy like it.

I ran the highest front roll center and red springs allround and 30wt snake oil. Man did the car turn. Very fast to react and held mid corner speed nicely... washed a bit of speed past mid corner. I think through too much grip.

Switched to 40 shore all round (up from 35's) and the car held corner speed a lot better.

More testing tomorrow...
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:39 AM   #16776
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Sparsky, any setup listing?

Did you run the new harder rear sway bar also?
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I'll post my full setup soon...

I tried the 2.5mm sway bar, but it was too much front grip.
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:53 AM   #16778
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FRONT
40 shore (Fast)
60 mm dia
1 deg toe out
4 mm in front of upper arm camber
30 oil - Red 710 springs
3 holes
4 mm ride
1 mm droop
RC no spacers under arm mount
1-way diff
Roll bar set to 60 degrees

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40 shore (Fast)
62 mm dia
2.5 degrees toe-in
30 oil - Red 710 springs
3 holes
upper shock mount outer hole
6.5 mm ride
7 mm ride
RC upper inner
DRS stock
Diff set loose
Stock roll-bar set at 6 mm

OTHERS
NSRR12L5
Nova Turbo Outlaw one piece pipe
Novarossi #6tc plug
17-22 pinion
60-56 spurs
Long Servo Saver
Protoform Nemisis shell
One piece Engine mount
Ally front Sway Holders
Ally mid shaft mount
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Shooter holow rear 2spd shaft
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:58 AM   #16779
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hello guys!!!

with the new servo saver,where is the best position for the steering links on top or bottom?
any change on steering by putting them on top or bottom?

thanks !!!!
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Old 10-04-2004, 06:01 AM   #16780
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Hi All,

I ran the car on the weekend and it was the best it has ever been. I have done the SWB mod 1mm, 2.5mm sway bar and put the new ackerman arm on. However it wasn't until today when doing a shell for the 710 my son is getting that I realised that I had forgot to check my track-width.

It turns out that I had 200mm rear and 204mm front. Now the track I run (med grip/high wear) on has a med/fast corner on the start of the straight and a hold your breath and keep it flat out corner at the end of the straight I was able to take these flat out with just a bit of mid corner understeer on the last corner.

I have just changed the track width back to 200mm F/R but will not get a chance to test it for a week or so. I'm looking forward to being able to run the exact lines I want for the fastest times.
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hello guys!!!

with the new servo saver,where is the best position for the steering links on top or bottom?
any change on steering by putting them on top or bottom?

thanks !!!!
It really depends on what front roll centre you are running. I would think the bottom is the best for ease of removal if required.

Just had a look at mine and if you run the ball diff I think they will rub on the diff if mounted on top of the arm.
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Hi All,

I ran the car on the weekend and it was the best it has ever been. I have done the SWB mod 1mm, 2.5mm sway bar and put the new ackerman arm on. However it wasn't until today when doing a shell for the 710 my son is getting that I realised that I had forgot to check my track-width.

It turns out that I had 200mm rear and 204mm front. Now the track I run (med grip/high wear) on has a med/fast corner on the start of the straight and a hold your breath and keep it flat out corner at the end of the straight I was able to take these flat out with just a bit of mid corner understeer on the last corner.

I have just changed the track width back to 200mm F/R but will not get a chance to test it for a week or so. I'm looking forward to being able to run the exact lines I want for the fastest times.
What track B4?
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Sugar Valley in Newcastle, we have moved to Edgeworth from the original small bumpy track we had. we are not likely to attract to many top drivers from other places yet because we don't have transponders, but we are working towards it. One pleasing thing though is that we will be having some more 710's doing battle which should help getting the best setup.
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Well I ran the new servo saver on the weekend. I realy like it.

I ran the highest front roll center and red springs allround and 30wt snake oil. Man did the car turn. Very fast to react and held mid corner speed nicely... washed a bit of speed past mid corner. I think through too much grip.

Switched to 40 shore all round (up from 35's) and the car held corner speed a lot better.

More testing tomorrow...
Yes and I will show you how much faster we can go
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thanks b4 im using default roll center with locked front diff.
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