Tekin RS ESC sensored
12-16-2009, 11:00 PM
#8731
Hey Randy (or anyone else)
Not looking for an explination on the differences between dual mode and sensored, but was wondering if I should try dual mode in VTA.
Is sensored mode with 0* motor timing and 30* boost equivalent to 100% in dual mode with 0* on the motor? What are the pros and cons of running a 21.5 in dual mode?
Not looking for an explination on the differences between dual mode and sensored, but was wondering if I should try dual mode in VTA.
Is sensored mode with 0* motor timing and 30* boost equivalent to 100% in dual mode with 0* on the motor? What are the pros and cons of running a 21.5 in dual mode?
12-17-2009, 01:39 AM
#8732
Hey Randy (or anyone else)
Not looking for an explination on the differences between dual mode and sensored, but was wondering if I should try dual mode in VTA.
Is sensored mode with 0* motor timing and 30* boost equivalent to 100% in dual mode with 0* on the motor? What are the pros and cons of running a 21.5 in dual mode?
Not looking for an explination on the differences between dual mode and sensored, but was wondering if I should try dual mode in VTA.
Is sensored mode with 0* motor timing and 30* boost equivalent to 100% in dual mode with 0* on the motor? What are the pros and cons of running a 21.5 in dual mode?
I have used dual drive on a small track and 13.5 in sedan to good effect, but it does have a much different feel to it.
The best thing to do is try it for yourself in practice and try different setups with it, but the hot ticket for 21.5 is sensored.
Dual drive mostly used for mod, to smooth the power band out. You need sensored with 21.5 to get the most rip out of it.
Used with a 13.5 it felt much smoother, which allowed me to concentrate on my racing line a lot more, as I had less speed to deal with.
With less speed, the car felt more drivable but down the straight, there were quicker cars than me. I felt like I had an advantage through the infield though. Our track is 10x15 metres.
Hope that helps
12-17-2009, 05:01 AM
#8734
12-17-2009, 06:08 AM
#8737
20smoke- lol, yes all in good time, just keeping the humor up and the team spirit 
I like the rip of my redline Chris, but I even had it working well on dual mode on a smaller track (10x15m), so it has plenty of room to open up just how you want it to
Got nothing against the Duo's, just never used them to compare.
Got nothing against the Duo's, just never used them to compare.
12-17-2009, 07:37 AM
#8738
20smoke- lol, yes all in good time, just keeping the humor up and the team spirit
I like the rip of my redline Chris, but I even had it working well on dual mode on a smaller track (10x15m), so it has plenty of room to open up just how you want it to
Got nothing against the Duo's, just never used them to compare.
I like the rip of my redline Chris, but I even had it working well on dual mode on a smaller track (10x15m), so it has plenty of room to open up just how you want it to
Got nothing against the Duo's, just never used them to compare.
sorry this might be a stupid question
12-17-2009, 08:02 AM
#8739
From my understanding dual mode swithes between sensored
and non sensored mode
and non sensored mode
12-17-2009, 08:11 AM
#8741
Dual mode at 100(max) is close to sensored only mode with say 0 motor timing close to 0 on boost.
There are some tolerances in the motors that create a bit more timing.
Dual mode has shown to be quite fast in 1/12 17.5 and WGT 10.5 classes. It does require a totally different gearing setup than a sensored only setup.
Dual mode is a sensored start(or whenever we need to use the sensors) and sensorless drive. The biggest difference is that the sensors are not used for any timing calculations.
There are some tolerances in the motors that create a bit more timing.
Dual mode has shown to be quite fast in 1/12 17.5 and WGT 10.5 classes. It does require a totally different gearing setup than a sensored only setup.
Dual mode is a sensored start(or whenever we need to use the sensors) and sensorless drive. The biggest difference is that the sensors are not used for any timing calculations.
Last edited by Randy_Pike; 12-17-2009 at 10:53 AM.
12-17-2009, 08:12 AM
#8742
Dual mode at 100(max) is close to sensored only mode with say 0 motor timing 25 on boost.
There are some tolerances in the motors that create a bit more timing.
Dual mode has shown to be quite fast in 1/12 17.5 and WGT 10.5 classes. It does require a totally different gearing setup than a sensored only setup.
Dual mode is a sensored start(or whenever we need to use the sensors) and sensorless drive. The biggest difference is that the sensors are not used for any timing calculations.
There are some tolerances in the motors that create a bit more timing.
Dual mode has shown to be quite fast in 1/12 17.5 and WGT 10.5 classes. It does require a totally different gearing setup than a sensored only setup.
Dual mode is a sensored start(or whenever we need to use the sensors) and sensorless drive. The biggest difference is that the sensors are not used for any timing calculations.
12-17-2009, 10:01 AM
#8745
Tech Master
Since we added boost we have not been posting the software on the website. Our thinking was if you have to ask someone for it they will hopefully mention that you need to drop a lot of gear, and you will go faster and run cooler. That is not obvious and without this information it is easy to be setup badly, be overgeared, melt your motor and be generally unhappy. The dynamic timing software is just too dangerous for average Joe that maxes all adjustments, straps in a 2.5 turn and uses the stock pinion with his RTR. We are protecting ourselves as well as our customers and think it has been the right thing to do till now.
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
.The snowbirds are coming over 40 days.
I hope it will come sooner than in 40 days.
